http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58143&perpage=6&pagenumber=4
imo, one important factor/aspect for low returns from most funds would be illustrated above - management fees.
As probably many institutional investors prefer a small MaxDD 5% with steady 20% returns, managers of this level of performance can still charge (normally) 2% fees, regardless incentive.
If any investor wants to use 5X leverage to gain 100% by risking 25% MaxDD, (s)he would have to pay also 5X management fees. That means managers can get 10% fees, before incentive. As such, why should a manager offer investors a program of 100% returns and 25% MaxDD by earning 2% management fees only, when 10% is possible?
Any comments?
Quote from OddTrader:
How about a structure like this:
Gross Returns => Incentive Fees => Max DD
40.00% => 20.00% => 10.00%
60.00% => 30.00% => 15.00%
80.00% => 40.00% => 20.00%
100.00% => 50.00% => 25.00%
and a client can choose what (s)he wants from these options?![]()
imo, one important factor/aspect for low returns from most funds would be illustrated above - management fees.
As probably many institutional investors prefer a small MaxDD 5% with steady 20% returns, managers of this level of performance can still charge (normally) 2% fees, regardless incentive.
If any investor wants to use 5X leverage to gain 100% by risking 25% MaxDD, (s)he would have to pay also 5X management fees. That means managers can get 10% fees, before incentive. As such, why should a manager offer investors a program of 100% returns and 25% MaxDD by earning 2% management fees only, when 10% is possible?
Any comments?