Actually I would prefer we buy more military hardware. At least it has a use, unlike most of what passes for "art", which generally is offensive to most people and/or highly politicized crap. I feel the same way about the vast majority of government-sponsored "research" in non-scientific fields. Do we really need more grants to fund some leftwing academics to ponder the question of why Juwanzo can't read? Or why elderly lesbians have trouble getting dates?
Why didn't the media report any of these mass shootings?
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Actually I would prefer we buy more military hardware. At least it has a use, unlike most of what passes for "art", which generally is offensive to most people and/or highly politicized crap. I feel the same way about the vast majority of government-sponsored "research" in non-scientific fields. Do we really need more grants to fund some leftwing academics to ponder the question of why Juwanzo can't read? Or why elderly lesbians have trouble getting dates?
More than one mass shooting a day? How the media were misled
The Washington Post headline didn’t mince words: “The San Bernardino Shooting Is The Second Mass Shooting Today and the 355th This Year.”
The New York Times led its piece this way:
“More than one a day.
“That is how often, on average, shootings that left four or more people wounded or dead occurred in the United States this year, according to compilations of episodes derived from news reports.”
MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, the Los Angeles Times and others have used the stunning statistic. I’ve heard at least one guest repeat it on Fox.
But it’s way off base.
It certainly feels like there’s a shooting every day. There was something about the San Bernardino massacre, coming so soon after the Planned Parenthood shootings (not to mention the Paris attacks), that seems to me like a tipping point. There was a collective groan in the country: Not again!!??
But as Mark Folman of Mother Jones reports--and the Times deserves credit for putting his piece online--there have been four mass shootings this year in the way most of us understand the term.
The misleading figures come from a site called ShootingTracker.com, built by members of an online Reddit forum that supports gun control, called Guns Are Cool. The larger number includes gang shootings, robberies and other violent outbreaks—not exactly in the same category as the Planned Parenthood killings in Colorado or Newtown or Charleston.
As the Post noted in an updated piece, ShootingTracker even included a couple of incidents involving pellet guns (though these were removed after criticism).
On the other side of the debate, the FBI has defined mass shootings as those that those in which three or more people were killed, recently changed from four—regardless of circumstance.
But this can be too restrictive: “Earlier this year, a gunman killed two people and wounded nine others during a shooting at a theater in Lafayette, La. Because only two people died, not including the gunman, that incident wouldn't meet the federal definition of a ‘mass killing’ — even though it garnered widespread media attention.”
It can be tricky stuff, reminding us of the old adage about lies, damned lies and statistics.
But the bottom line is that the ShootingTracker founder said he wanted to broaden the definition of mass shootings—and he obviously has an agenda. Too bad some in the media were initially taken in by that agenda. But at least they’re now grappling openly with these questions.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-mass-shooting-day-how-media-were-misled.html
The Washington Post headline didn’t mince words: “The San Bernardino Shooting Is The Second Mass Shooting Today and the 355th This Year.”
The New York Times led its piece this way:
“More than one a day.
“That is how often, on average, shootings that left four or more people wounded or dead occurred in the United States this year, according to compilations of episodes derived from news reports.”
MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, the Los Angeles Times and others have used the stunning statistic. I’ve heard at least one guest repeat it on Fox.
But it’s way off base.
It certainly feels like there’s a shooting every day. There was something about the San Bernardino massacre, coming so soon after the Planned Parenthood shootings (not to mention the Paris attacks), that seems to me like a tipping point. There was a collective groan in the country: Not again!!??
But as Mark Folman of Mother Jones reports--and the Times deserves credit for putting his piece online--there have been four mass shootings this year in the way most of us understand the term.
The misleading figures come from a site called ShootingTracker.com, built by members of an online Reddit forum that supports gun control, called Guns Are Cool. The larger number includes gang shootings, robberies and other violent outbreaks—not exactly in the same category as the Planned Parenthood killings in Colorado or Newtown or Charleston.
As the Post noted in an updated piece, ShootingTracker even included a couple of incidents involving pellet guns (though these were removed after criticism).
On the other side of the debate, the FBI has defined mass shootings as those that those in which three or more people were killed, recently changed from four—regardless of circumstance.
But this can be too restrictive: “Earlier this year, a gunman killed two people and wounded nine others during a shooting at a theater in Lafayette, La. Because only two people died, not including the gunman, that incident wouldn't meet the federal definition of a ‘mass killing’ — even though it garnered widespread media attention.”
It can be tricky stuff, reminding us of the old adage about lies, damned lies and statistics.
But the bottom line is that the ShootingTracker founder said he wanted to broaden the definition of mass shootings—and he obviously has an agenda. Too bad some in the media were initially taken in by that agenda. But at least they’re now grappling openly with these questions.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-mass-shooting-day-how-media-were-misled.html
just another reminder, if it is a serious problem and it affects your life, don't let the government take care of it
A lot of it is foundation money, and the government has more influence over certain foundations than it might appear at first glance.
Horrible "mass shooting" that the media is silent on. Wonder why?? Is it because it's rayciss??
Pregnant Mother Gunned Down in Shooting Rampage
By: Andy Sage (Breaking911 Newsroom) December 7, 2015 | 12:55 PM
Home » BREAKING NEWS » Exclusive Audio: 2 Year Old Girl and Pregnant Mother Gunned Down in Shooting Rampage
OMAHA- Dontevous Loyd, who was wanted in connection with Sunday’s shooting of his pregnant girlfriend and her 2-year-old daughter, turned himself in to police in Omaha on Tuesday morning and was subsequently arrested.
Loyd, aged 23, declared on his Facebook page that he was turning himself in “before I get gunned down.’’
He was then taken into custody around 5:45 a.m. outside the Douglas County Jail near 17th and Leavenworth Streets.
Police were called to the area of 6630 N. 107th Plaza around 11 PM Sunday night for reports of multiple people shot. When police arrived they found 5 people shot, among them a 2 year old girl. The 2 year old girl, along with her pregnant mother, were pronounced deceased at the scene. Medics took 3 adults to local trauma centers in critical condition.
Police have identified the suspect as Dontevous Loyd, 23 and he is currently being sought by the Metro Area Fugitive Task Force on a warrant charging him with two counts of first-degree murder, three counts of attempted first-degree murder, five counts of use of a weapon and one count of possession of a gun by a prohibited person.
Loyd was shot back in 2010 with several other males in a drive by shooting. He had also been in jail burglary and felony theft by receiving stolen property. He was sentenced to 4 years and was released on parole only after 2 years and 6 months.
He is considered armed and dangerous.
Police were reportedly called to the area several times earlier in the day with regards to a stolen vehicle and a disturbance when he returned.
This is the city’s sixth double homicide this year. There has been one triple homicide.
Police have identified the deceased 2 year old as Kenacia Straughn and her 22 year old mother Destacia Straughn, also deceased.
The other victims include a 22 year old female, a 21 year old female, and a 18 year old female all in critical condition.
Breaking911 had obtained Police and Fire audio of the event.
Pregnant Mother Gunned Down in Shooting Rampage
By: Andy Sage (Breaking911 Newsroom) December 7, 2015 | 12:55 PM
Home » BREAKING NEWS » Exclusive Audio: 2 Year Old Girl and Pregnant Mother Gunned Down in Shooting Rampage
OMAHA- Dontevous Loyd, who was wanted in connection with Sunday’s shooting of his pregnant girlfriend and her 2-year-old daughter, turned himself in to police in Omaha on Tuesday morning and was subsequently arrested.
Loyd, aged 23, declared on his Facebook page that he was turning himself in “before I get gunned down.’’
He was then taken into custody around 5:45 a.m. outside the Douglas County Jail near 17th and Leavenworth Streets.
Police were called to the area of 6630 N. 107th Plaza around 11 PM Sunday night for reports of multiple people shot. When police arrived they found 5 people shot, among them a 2 year old girl. The 2 year old girl, along with her pregnant mother, were pronounced deceased at the scene. Medics took 3 adults to local trauma centers in critical condition.
Police have identified the suspect as Dontevous Loyd, 23 and he is currently being sought by the Metro Area Fugitive Task Force on a warrant charging him with two counts of first-degree murder, three counts of attempted first-degree murder, five counts of use of a weapon and one count of possession of a gun by a prohibited person.
Loyd was shot back in 2010 with several other males in a drive by shooting. He had also been in jail burglary and felony theft by receiving stolen property. He was sentenced to 4 years and was released on parole only after 2 years and 6 months.
He is considered armed and dangerous.
Police were reportedly called to the area several times earlier in the day with regards to a stolen vehicle and a disturbance when he returned.
This is the city’s sixth double homicide this year. There has been one triple homicide.
Police have identified the deceased 2 year old as Kenacia Straughn and her 22 year old mother Destacia Straughn, also deceased.
The other victims include a 22 year old female, a 21 year old female, and a 18 year old female all in critical condition.
Breaking911 had obtained Police and Fire audio of the event.