Why didn't my options order get filled ?

Dude,you are living in bizzaro land or you just reinvented the wheel..

You are incapable of pulling the trigger,and think the cure is to shoot 500 lots at the start line and then drastically reduce size once you hit???

Judging by your responses, you are emotionally,and lucky for you, incapable of trading that dumb...

FWIW,I get the dreaded fear of losing as I am built the same way.

Trade small with proper MM.... Everything else is mental masturbation


JohnBartle said:
I'll prove you wrong once I make one or two big profits using my whole account, and once I get rid of my foggy mind and ADD and racing thoughts. Then I'll reduce my trade size and have confidence to trade every day. I could go the small fraction of my account path but that comes with some problems. One problem is that I'm running out of time.
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cesfx said:
I have no problem in helping pushing a button, if that is all is needed and if it can work.
I am not always in front of the screen, as my main occupation is to run a small business.
My trading style is positional and swing on stocks, future and options. I rarely do day trading, but my trading has nothing to do with it.
You can write me in private if you like, and eventually you would let me know your criteria, as right or wrong, with my money, I would have executed the .30 trade at .31 after a few seconds of wait without a fill.
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Alright then buddy. I'll definitely think about it. I'm interested for sure.

You sound like a good dude
 
taowave said:
Dude,you are living in bizzaro land or you just reinvented the wheel..

You are incapable of pulling the trigger,and think the cure is to shoot 500 lots at the start line and then drastically reduce size once you hit???

Judging by your responses, you are emotionally,and lucky for you, incapable of trading that dumb...

FWIW,I get the dreaded fear of losing as I am built the same way.

Trade small with proper MM.... Everything else is mental masturbation
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LOL, I AGREE . It is psychotic all the way ! ALL THE WAY! I've never denied that in my life. BUT, when my mind is spinning, my thoughts are racing, my memory is bad, and I can't think too far ahead - you get THIS insanity. I reduced my margin account to a cash to make unlimited small trades, but I never followed through.

I got reasons why I had such a difficult time deciding to trade small.

One reason was that it was VERY difficult to think.

Another reason was that EVERY trade was grueling to figure out for me: I wanted proper compensation.

Another reason was the obsessive belief that I was always just a single trade/click away from trading stability. I put off getting COMPLETELY NECESSARY proper equipment until 2020 because of that.

Another reason was that I missed most trades because I couldn't analyze quite quickly enough, I couldn't pay close enough attention long enough, or I was too afraid. I LOVE trades that are extremely profitable and give lots of time to think. I want to be making 10s of thousands per trade but if I start with a couple hundred I would have to risk ALL my profits many consecutive times to build up to enough quickly. If I don't trade all my profits then it would take a long time to build my account up to the point of making thousands per trade. OR I could just make 1 or 2 big initial trades and be done ✅

I know it don't make no sense.
 
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How quick are you when you are wrong??

And I am emotionally incapable of trading direction,which is why I seek "greener" pastures

No sense agonizing over what could have been

JohnBartle said:
LOL, I AGREE . It is psychotic all the way ! ALL THE WAY! I've never denied that in my life. BUT, when my mind is spinning, my thoughts are racing, my memory is bad, and I can't think too far ahead - you get THIS insanity. I reduced my margin account to a cash to make unlimited small trades, but I never followed through.

I got reasons why I had such a difficult time deciding to trade small.

One reason was that it was VERY difficult to think.

Another reason was that EVERY trade was grueling to figure out for me: I wanted proper compensation.

Another reason was the obsessive belief that I was always just a single trade away from trading stability. I put off getting COMPLETELY NECESSARY proper equipment until 2020 because of that.

Another reason was that I missed most trades because I couldn't analyze quite quickly enough, I couldn't pay close enough attention long enough, or I was too afraid. I LOVE trades that are extremely profitable and give lots of time to think. I want to be making 10s of thousands per trade but if I start with a couple hundred I would have to risk ALL my profits many consecutive times to build up to enough quickly. If I don't trade all my profits then it would take a long time to build my account up to the point of making thousands per trade. OR I could just make 1 or 2 big initial trades and be done ✅

I know it don't make no sense.
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John,

One way the pro’s do this is put in an order for only 1-2 options. You quickly see the price that they are currently filling for (or not filling). You can also direct your order to one specific exchange (CBOE, ISE, etc) if you are not easily filled. Remember, you are dealing with a computer/algo that fills.

Also, for an order of 500, you can call TD’s trade desk and they will call the floor and get you a quote/fill on the phone.

Finally, when things get volatile, you may not get filled no matter what. If you are filled, you should always have a backup liquid hedge available.
 
opt-trader4 said:
John,

One way the pro’s do this is put in an order for only 1-2 options. You quickly see the price that they are currently filling for (or not filling). You can also direct your order to one specific exchange (CBOE, ISE, etc) if you are not easily filled. Remember, you are dealing with a computer/algo that fills.

Also, for an order of 500, you can call TD’s trade desk and they will call the floor and get you a quote/fill on the phone.

Finally, when things get volatile, you may not get filled no matter what. If you are filled, you should always have a backup liquid hedge available.
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For the strike price I would currently be looking at, I almost always see bids and offers in TDAs order book with >1,500. Do you have any idea of what I should expect if THAT ask or bid equals my limit price ? Will I almost certainly get filled in your experience ? That always worried me.


EDIT: Oh, I guess you already sort of answered that
 
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JohnBartle said:
... I want to be making 10s of thousands per trade but if I start with a couple hundred I would have to risk ALL my profits many consecutive times to build up to enough quickly...
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Hey JohnB. *pssst* That's the "compounding" you see talked about many times on this forum.

Ever notice how nobody here truly understands what compounding means in trading? Like Expiated? I am glad you do.
 
Surely you jest...


Overnight said:
Hey JohnB. *pssst* That's the "compounding" you see talked about many times on this forum.

Ever notice how nobody here truly understands what compounding means in trading? Like Expiated? I am glad you do.
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easymon1 said:
Yes and people in hell want ice water, lol.
You press the Enter button yet?

Throw Your Set In The Air

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No, like usual, I missed most of the opportunities Friday because I wasn't paying attention or I couldn't think fast enough. I was hoping to take my winnings of >$50k and doing several long term routines to fix my peace, clarity, attention issue.

If I don't get that fixed then I definitely won't be makings >$200k per month.

If I understood why my highly profitable predictions of dead accurate entry points and exit points are entirely unreliable to real-world trades then I wouldn't have so much confidence. Liquidity is the only potential issue I see.
 
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