Why didn't my options order get filled ?

easymon1 said:
How many paper trades do you have under your belt?
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I've been doing "paper trades" since 2007. I've taken about 5 years off. I've probably made, on average, 5 paper trades per trading day. I would regularly predict not only massive moves but also exact tops and bottoms and the pathways in between. I would estimate at least 1 out of 5 options trades was worth at least 200% but many many other typical trades were worth several times more than that. I also traded options with at least a projected volume of 80X my own trade. What I found was that an extreme familiarity with subtleties and nuanced behaviors of individual stocks plus a host of many other clues pointing to the same conclusion would almost guarantee success every time . My win rate combined with my profits compared to my losses almost guaranteed that no losing streak would ever wipe me out .
 
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murray t turtle said:
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SOMETHING ELSE that may help you a lot\
it may shock you to find out how many profitable traders/investors would not risk 16k or anywhere near that on something so low priced.
And most of all you you did not '' knew it would be massive day down.''
Reality checks ,or reality cash however can be even better.
IF i was afraid of something anywhere near 3,000 time i would find out why, because you most likely right to be afraid a of cheap order with that volume.
FEW catch '' the'' bottom or up top tic. Trend study may help??
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What was wrong with the volume ? The daily volume seemed to be at least 80X what I was buying. I would think that's good. Of course, the minute to minute volume looked abysmal.

Is the minute to minute volume listed on TDA charts actually accurate ?
 
newwurldmn said:
I can’t tell if this is a troll thread or not.
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If it is it ain't me turning it into one. I'm not even sure how what I'm saying is so hard to believe. I'm not really even that knowledgeable at trading. I am, however, very good at predicting. I thought seasoned traders were WAY better than me. My psychological problems always held me back in life A LOT! I was going to seriously get into several fields of engineering, physics, 3d animation, software programming ,entrepreneurship and more. Trading should have originally been only a mere speck of how I was going to make my money, but extreme fogginess and racing thoughts stopped all that. Being successful at trading wouldn't be much of an accomplishment to me tbh.


I'm now just chit chatting really.
 
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The posting showcasing rule 605 is what you need to understand. SEC has not approved dark pools in options and all the bullshit about payment and internalization is pretty much irrelevant with SPY options. There is dark liquidity on the exchanges, but that would just give you a bigger size and it is firm-specific so a plus to some firms. Liquidity in SPY is massive and it is traded on every exchange. SPY and SPY options are not price-protected in fast markets because the data cannot be aggregated fast enough
 
JohnBartle said:
What was wrong with the volume ? The daily volume seemed to be at least 80X what I was buying. I would think that's good. Of course, the minute to minute volume looked abysmal.

Is the minute to minute volume listed on TDA charts actually accurate ?
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I NEVER trust completely broker's charts/quotes; even if they are ok.

Maybe you can afford to lose that money\ but volume wise i meant 500 contracts with you admitting '' kinda sorta newish to trading''
Some of my orders on liquid + semi liquid stuff never get filled; but thats ok\ some do:D:D
 
JohnBartle said:
Well, I'm running out of time. So, I'm getting pretty desperate and willing to face my fear. Once I make 20k or 30k I'll have the confidence to make real trades everyday. I can win that in 1 trade easily - I just have to calm down, relax, clear my foggy mind a little and face my fear.
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Ok just make sure you hedge and start small. You can be making 10's and thousands' of dollars in imaginary trading, but if you make one bad trade in real life, it will set you back really badly, both financially and psychologically. Real trading is completely different from imaginary trading. Trust me.
 
JohnBartle said:
I've been doing "paper trades" since 2007. I've taken about 5 years off. I've probably made, on average, 5 paper trades per trading day. I would regularly predict not only massive moves but also exact tops and bottoms and the pathways in between. I would estimate at least 1 out of 5 options trades was worth at least 200% but many many other typical trades were worth several times more than that. I also traded options with at least a projected volume of 80X my own trade. What I found was that an extreme familiarity with subtleties and nuanced behaviors of individual stocks plus a host of many other clues pointing to the same conclusion would almost guarantee success every time . My win rate combined with my profits compared to my losses almost guaranteed that no losing streak would ever wipe me out .
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I also have a guarantee. Anything posted live beyond a lucky trade or two, will fail to match the last 10,000 fantasy trades.
 
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