We are not talking about man's religions here.
To me it translates that you can be born again, and that a part of the creator is inside of ALL of us regardless if you choose to have a relationship with it.
Why did God......
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We are not talking about man's religions here.
To me it translates that you can be born again, and that a part of the creator is inside of ALL of us regardless if you choose to have a relationship with it.
Sadly, this is all in the name of religion, and this has been going on for 1000's of years. Anybody heard of the inquisition?
Makes one wonder which religion is the correct one and why hasn't God, as defined by the ancient texts, come out to say which one is it, to settle the issue once a for all.
As someone wrote earlier, the suspense continues as people keep on dying.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7851790.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7850931.stm
Makes one wonder which religion is the correct one and why hasn't God, as defined by the ancient texts, come out to say which one is it, to settle the issue once a for all.
As someone wrote earlier, the suspense continues as people keep on dying.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7851790.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7850931.stm
I do not get why you think this is a some sort of trump card. What deceit. You think you are the first human to shake your fist at the God of bible. Take out the Garden of Eden story and illustrate the deceit that gets you all riled up.
The story has it all -- you see how the crowd breaks down after reading the story.
1. Christians and probably most Jews (i am not a jew so I am not making an absolute statement) believe God is external and we can choose to be with him.
2. New age and many eastern religous types say God is you or you should aspire to be like God and maybe you will become a God. The sales pitch of the serpant in the story.
3. Agnostics are like WTF its just a story.
4. Some read this, go bananas and proclaim they know there is no God - they pretend their belief of no God is superior and act like science is on their side.
The are most zealous of the crowd and generally too emotional to acknowledge that science has no say in whether the universe has a creator or not.
side note
The Garden of eden was supposed to be a lush tropical paradise in what is now the desert of the middle east. did all that bio matter turn into oil.
The Truth is the "lamb", "slain from the foundation of the world".
The Truth is called a "lamb" because it shares attributes, ie:
Does not defend itself.
Is gentle.
Is innocent.
Is easily led to slaughter.
Christ!
you dont have to wonder about things like this if you simply go with what the evidence shows. there is nothing up there. if you conclude based on the evidence that there are no gods then the answer you get(none) for these types of questions make perfect sense.
No, Jesus demonstrated the attributes of a lamb to demonstrate the genesis of the world. The genesis of the world represents an attack on Truth...so it represents an attack on GoD through an attack on the Son of God. The world slaughters the Truth right from its very immasculate conception. The world survives only as the Truth is daily mangled beyond recognition. The world hides from the Truth even as it "covers" itself in the blood of the Truth. The world hides behind a mockery of "truth", a mimicry of "reality", and a rediculous parody of "creation". The sacrifice of Truth is very ancient. Jesus became a new way to sacrifice the truth...by becoming a new way for the self-decieved to decieve themselves longer and better... and thereby save themselves from the Truth.
The blood of the Truth is the power of the Truth.
The world is interested only in the power of the Truth, that it may seem to exist without the Truth.
The power of Truth is the Law of Love, which gives as asked.
The world is a gift asked for and recieved by the self-decieved.
The world is delivered by the Truth to the ruthless.
The world can only seem to exist as the Truth is slaughtered.
It's genesis is ruthlessly confusing.
Biblical genesis slaughters the truth.
The legion of the *many* slaughters the truth.
The Pharisee slaughtered the truth daily.
Likewise, Paul, of the school of Pharisee, slaughtered the truth.
The biblical cannon slaughters the truth daily.
The RCC slaughters the truth daily.
Your own interpretations slaughter the truth.
Most "christian" interpretations slaughter the truth...daily.
Most "pastors" slaughter the truth daily.
Many "pastors" slaughter the truth daily over the airwaves.
So,
Daily, the truth is sacrificed that the world may be saved for itself.
Yet,
Daily, the merciful would end the sacrifice that the Truth may be saved from the world.
The world, washed away, reveals the Truth unharmed, standing where it always was, is, and ever shall be.
So,
The Truth is the alpha and the omega.
Before the world, Truth was.
During the world, Truth is.
After the world, Truth shall always be.
What, then, is the world but a passing fancy that fools with forgetfulness and failure to forgive?
Christ!
Not part, all of the Creator/Creation is within the scope of each one's true identity, regardless of appearances. That power is used to deny true identity, yeilding many masks masquerading as the truth. If the world was a party, the Truth would be a party pooper. So it is not well recieved until long past midnight, and the light begins to dawn again.
Christ!
Man is part of an expression of freedom, in which Freedom itself thinks to imprison itSelf with "choices". The Truth sets man free to be Freedom, instead of Freedom's prison. Oh yes, there is "freedom" in prison. But not the truth about Freedom. The Truth wills as GoD wills, knowing nothing of "choice". What is there to choose when Everything belongs to Freedom? What is there to choose when Reality is total Abundance? Why choose? Choosing means nothing to All That Is. Choosing is about sacrifice...about the belief that there is not enough. Choosing is ultimately about how not to share the totality of Abundance.
Man does not exist in Truth. There are no persons in Christ. A person is something that chooses to limit itself that it may be seen as special compared to other persons who limit themselves to be special.
Truth is not special.
Truth is true for all.
Truth is always true.
Christ!
The gOd of biblical genesis lore is nOt GoD.
We were not created with frailties.
But then,
We were not created as humans.
We were created perfect and remain so.
"The world" is/was a mind-game for One powerful.
Big toys for big boys.
A human is an effect of toying with an idea that is nOt an attribute of perfection.
The singular idea that fuels the fantasy that is the world is simply:
*Specialness*
This may be hard to understand till its tacitly accepted that perfection involves a sharing of a perfect totality which can only be compromised by alterations of addition or subtraction.
Perfection includes equality and sameness.
There is nO heirarchy in perfection.
On the other hand...
Specialness establishes a pecking order.
Separation is a prerequisite idea for accomplishing the goal of specialness.
Specialness must always take away from perfection because there is no way to make perfection more total, more omni, or more infinite.
So,
To be special, one must go in the direction of littleness.
In the direction of littleness, each may find a "niche" in which he finds himself special.
Differences are foundational to the goal of special status.
So,
Everything in the world is seemingly separate, different, and therefore...special.
And,
Everything in the world is little.
And this is how "hell" begins.
This is what form is for...comparisons.
It seems like a good idea perhaps.
But specialness is what betrays the One, and induces pain and suffering.
The world is One, conceptually making itself special.
All of the special are really one.
The special hurt and are hurt in the process.
So,
Specialhood is synonymous with personhood which is synonymous with crucifixion.
Was it our Creator's will that we be crucified?
No.
Was the idea of specialness something we were ordered not to think about?
No.
Was specialness put in front of our face by our Creator to tempt us?
No.
It was just a mad idea creeping about in our otherwise perfect mind.
The idea was laughable, and still is.
But when taken seriously, it offers seriousness.
The world is an expression of the freedom to think what we want about ourselves.
The world is something we give ourselves to "be", experientially.
It is unable to change the original perfection.
It was a mind-trick that looked beyond the totality of our perfection.
The world is what is beyond our perfection.
The world is what imperfection looks like, perfectly pictured.
It answers a question.
We have the right to ask the question and have it answered.
We can look at the answer as long as we want.
We can experience the answer as long as we want.
It is only an experience of the mind.
It changes nOt the Changeless, and has no consequences.
This is hard to understand so long as the Self that asks the question is underestimated.
Underestimation is a habit of the special, who have underestimated themselves to achieve special status.
Humans are thoughts of a self-concept, itself a thought of Self.
The thoughts seems to "be" authentic entities, invested with autonomy.
This is not really true.
Humans are perfectly imperfect.
They contribute an answer to the original question.
The question is more like, "What if everything was different?"
This question is the same as, "What am I?"
The world is the answer.
The second question is answered in the negative, as it is already known what is Self.
Self is everything.
So,
The world is everything different from everything.
This constitutes a self-on-self attack.
Self cannot be hurt, and always stays out of the fight.
What fights are self-concepts exploring the effects of the answer to the questions.
This is accomplished by a splitting of mind...toying with mental powers.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand" means that the fight between the special one's will eventually end in peace.
The True GoD has never done anything but to aid our decision to end a mental conflict of cosmic proportions.
The True GoD has aided our resolution since the mad concept was first concieved of.
The True GoD immediately gave Answer to our question the moment it seemed to induce a communication breakdown.
The world is our answer to ourselves.
There is yet another world that is the True GoD's Answer.
That is the world that will lead us back to wholeness of mind.
To see it, believe in Self, and do not underestimate longer.
If this explaination cannot be gathered from the biblical genesis lore, then burn the lore as propaganda that fuels the fight of the faith-filled special ones.
In that war, truth was the very first casualty.
Christ!