Why did Europe open the door so much for Islamics?

noob_trad3r · Mar 22, 2012

I remember in the 1980s You went to Paris, London, Amsterdam etc.. and the people were natives of the country. And you felt like you were in different countries.

Go now and what a difference time makes. It is like they opened up the floodgates and invited them all in. It seems little by little those countries are gonna end up primarily full of Muslims etc.. Why did they do this?

achilles28 · Mar 22, 2012

It's pre-mediated. The West is committing economic, political, and demographic suicide.

Martinghoul · Mar 22, 2012

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It's pre-mediated. The West is committing economic, political, and demographic suicide.

Demographic suicide in what sense? Demographic suicide in the developed societies in the West is what happens when you prevent immigration, rather than encourage it.

In terms of the OP's question, for countries like France and the UK, it's all about the colonial past.

Brass · Mar 22, 2012

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It's pre-mediated. The West is committing economic, political, and demographic suicide.

Is that what Jesus told you?

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...because I've had a personal experience with Christ. When you experience the supernatural, you know it's real. Your original post is better. It's a valid and logical question. It comes down to experience. The supernatural really exists. Christ is really real. When people ask Him into their lives and repent, He - God - reveals Himself to them in a supernatural way....

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239208&perpage=6&pagenumber=12

Grandluxe · Mar 22, 2012

Quote from noob_trad3r:

I remember in the 1980s You went to Paris, London, Amsterdam etc.. and the people were natives of the country. And you felt like you were in different countries.

Go now and what a difference time makes. It is like they opened up the floodgates and invited them all in. It seems little by little those countries are gonna end up primarily full of Muslims etc.. Why did they do this?

Well in the latest census I see, 90-95% of people living in britain identify themselves as white which is way higher than in the USA.

achilles28 · Mar 22, 2012

Quote from Martinghoul:

Demographic suicide in what sense? Demographic suicide in the developed societies in the West is what happens when you prevent immigration, rather than encourage it.

In terms of the OP's question, for countries like France and the UK, it's all about the colonial past.

No, it's not. Boatloads of third-world refugees are fast-tracked through the system and put on welfare, while other skilled and well-heeled immigrants wait at the back of the line, sometimes for years. Nobody wants these Muslim refugees here. 9/10 Americans, real Americans (white or black), don't want Mexicans overrunning the country. Part of the reason refugees are given priority access to European and Canadian immigration courts - it's a political steam-valve to promote stability in the middle-east. Many of these refugees have a criminal and seditious history, we'd rather police here, than topple Governments, over there. That's why Canada imports so many Kurds, as does the the EU. The State Department lists the Kurdish Liberation Army as a terrorist organization, yet Canada and Europe rubberstamp tons of Kurdish refugees who claim affiliation with the KLA. Why? Turkey is a hugely important NATO ally and their strong Kurdish minority represents a real threat to Turkeys internal stability..

As for the rest of it, Western fertility is plunging, while sterility has gone parabolic. Food additives, pesticides, GMO and BPA are responsible for that. Those are all "Federally Approved", at one level, or another. The media vilify multi-child families as enemies of the environment while hold up China's one child policy, as a good thing. The over-population meme is drummed into our heads every time we watch TV. We're not replacing ourselves, and the immigrants we do let in, many are borderline criminal, and at the least, broke off their ass and a financial drain on society. They view the nations social services as something to be gamed, rather than conserved.

achilles28 · Mar 22, 2012

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Is that what Jesus told you?

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239208&perpage=6&pagenumber=12

You expect me to be embarrassed about that? Because I shared my faith?

That says far more about your character, than it does about mine.

Brass · Mar 22, 2012

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You expect me to be embarrassed about that? Because I shared my faith?

That says far more about your character, than it does about mine.

It is not a question of embarrassment. It is a question of spiritual disconnect. How do you reconcile your views with the gentle teachings of your lord and savior, who has made himself known to you? Remember, I'm the soulless atheist.

achilles28 · Mar 22, 2012

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It is not a question of embarrassment. It is a question of disconnect. How do you reconcile your views with the teachings of your lord and savior?

Clearly you did try to embarrass me by asking if Jesus told me that. It was a stupid thing to say, but you're a devout atheist who views any religious faith as something to be scorned and ridiculed.

So what's your question? Disconnect how? I don't see your point.

Brass · Mar 22, 2012

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Clearly you did try to embarrass me by asking if Jesus told me that...

No, that would be you reading yourself into my question. Projection, as it were. I am not embarrassed about my views, so I don't expect you to be embarrassed about your beliefs.

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...I don't see your point.

Precisely. THAT is my point.