Why daytrade stocks instead of futures?

Originally posted by rs7
too many reasons to even begin to list.

essentially, though, with stocks, you can judge individual issues on their own strengths and weaknesses. much more opportunity. and you can be long and short at the same time in different issues. you can trade different sectors. you can trade "pairs" you can use derivatives (yes with futures too, but few do). fundamentals come into play. relative strength, volume, news, earnings, a million factors. you can trade listed or otc., you can watch price action and size. the list of reasons is endless.

But if you can make the same amount of money - if not more - without fooling around with any of this, why bother?

--Db
 
Originally posted by dbphoenix


But if you can make the same amount of money - if not more - without fooling around with any of this, why bother?

--Db
Well, like I said, I don't trade futures, so I am perhaps the wrong one to ask. But for me, by trading different stocks and different sectors, and being on both sides is my way of dealing with risk management. Everyone has their own style, and their own niche. I used to trade options exclusively. My risk management was a whole different thing in that case (I was on the floor). I could not do off the floor what I did on it.

I wouldn't know how to truly manage risk if I traded mini-futures now. Other than to use stops. Which is not exactly my approach. And it certainly would never have worked with options. So it is what you are used to. Or what you develop and become comfortable with.

Again, no right or wrong. The question was "why" and it is a subjective thing. I gave the answer that was the "why" for me.

:)rs7
 
Stocks vs. Futures debate is much like choosing to learn to play the piano or guitar, Karate or Aikido. Choice based on personal psyche..but very cogent points raised by the proponents of either insturments are worth reading in old posts so start your search there.
 
Originally posted by daniel_m
well maybe it's the lower commissions people like with stocks, or the favorable tax treatment...


I am confused. Aren't futures tax treatment way better than stocks? I am only asking because I have never traded a stock in my life.
 
Originally posted by Sarasota
I am confused. Aren't futures tax treatment way better than stocks? I am only asking because I have never traded a stock in my life.
I think all of ole Daniel's posts on this thread have tongue firmly planted in cheek.... :cool:
 
Originally posted by Magna
I think all of ole Daniel's posts on this thread have tongue firmly planted in cheek.... :cool:

Now I realize that many of Dan's posts have been facetious!
:)
 
Originally posted by rs7
essentially, though, with stocks, you can judge individual issues on their own strengths and weaknesses. much more opportunity. and you can be long and short at the same time in different issues. you can trade different sectors. you can trade "pairs" you can use derivatives (yes with futures too, but few do). fundamentals come into play. relative strength, volume, news, earnings, a million factors. you can trade listed or otc., you can watch price action and size. the list of reasons is endless.

it is not about just guessing (or "anticipating" if you like the word better) the direction of the market.
:)rs7

I trade futures almost exclusively. However I keep a keen eye on about 20 or so stocks. Key off them. More and more I see reasons to pick out a particular equity for either a better outright move than the index or for a spreading opp. against futures. I used to pooh pooh the viability of SSF's, but I reckon I will be a participant. Can't beat those margins.
 
But I want to know why people daytrade stocks instead of futures. Is it really less risky than the futures?

I'd bet it has to with understanding the overall market.
From www.investorwords.com :

futures A standardized, transferable, exchange-traded contract that requires delivery of a commodity, bond, currency, or stock index, at a specified price, on a specified future date.

My guess is that a company stock is more tangible than something more esoteric like a future. I'd think you'd need to have a good handle on markets overall and how different indicators work, so you can trade off them confidently.

Where's your edge in future? I'd be willing to wager that for many people (especially earlier in their trading) it's in thinking they can know a company better than an index or a commodity. Well enough, anyway, to cast a prediction they can act on.
 
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