Why Can’t We Talk About the Murder Wave?

[Tony Stark]

Because the thousands of murders every year are in the cities, almost all black on black. There needs to be a legal way to scour those neighborhoods for guns.

All of those guns came from legal gun owners one way or another

 

[Tony Stark]

There are too many guns floating around in certain mostly inner city demographics.

Indeed.We have to stop the leak.

 

[wrbtrader]

It's obvious that most rural gun owners are not a problem.

I posted a map from law enforcement many months ago that shows guns being built in the Northeast (New Hamshire), Missouri, Florida, North Carolina, and Mississippi.

The map then showed the guns being sent to mostly rural areas of the following states...

• Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, and Kansas...making up most of the gun sales in the United States.

The map then showed the direct path to the nearby inner-cities in those states and even more to inner-cities in neighboring states. In addition, if you grew up in the Chicago area as I did for a few years (not the inner-city)... it's very common to know someone that drove to nearby Indiana, Michigan, or Missouri to purchase a firearm (legally) from someone selling their gun. Also, these are popular states for illegal gun sales.

Simply, you want to talk about guns or solve the gun problems in inner-cities, you need to cut off the head of the snake in the above-identified states and enact stricter gun laws in the above states because they are the ones that make it the easiest to purchase a gun.

wrbtrader

 

[ipatent]

Indeed.We have to stop the leak.

Stop and Frisk worked under Giuliani in NYC. I'd look at special exclusion zones located in the areas where the murders are happening with heightened penalties, etc.

No one really acts like they care about the inner city victims, many of them children. There are a lot of hard working people in those neighborhoods trying to follow the rules and work their way up.

 

[Tony Stark]

Stop and Frisk

Of course right wingers have no problem with stopping,detaining and searching minorities without probable cause or a warrant but would lose their minds if a cop stopped,detained and searched them without probable cause or a warrant.

Right wingers are ready to die for the 2nd amendment being violated,no problems with minorities 4th amendment rights being violated though.

 

[Tony Stark]

I'd look at special exclusion zones located in the areas where the murders are happening with heightened penalties, etc.

Lets just ban guns since the constitution doesn't matter

 

[UsualName]

Because the thousands of murders every year are in the cities, almost all black on black. There needs to be a legal way to scour those neighborhoods for guns.

So we should not try to stop the heroine from coming into the country but scour neighborhoods for heroine instead?

Have you ever considered that not stopping guns from flowing into the black market makes law enforcement extremely dangerous? Now you want law enforcement to scour entire neighborhoods for guns.

What else should law enforcement do in your mind?

 

[Tony Stark]

Right wingers fully support solutions to crime that violate the constitutional rights of black and brown people but none that they feel violates the 2nd amendment.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Right wingers fully support solutions to crime that violate the constitutional rights of black and brown people but none that they feel violates the 2nd amendment.

Putting a militia member that fails to properly
protect their weapon in the stockade is clearly fine with the 2nd amendment.

Ipatent has clearly just never experienced military discipline. Its very important you don't lose your gun.

 

[ipatent]

So we should not try to stop the heroine from coming into the country but scour neighborhoods for heroine instead?

It's a bad analogy.