Why? - Back to the Office - Fannies in Chairs

[S2007S]

i got a friend who works for Amazon AWS team. they want these guys back to "foster collaboration". Something about working remotely hinders innovation

Of course it hinders innovation, you are going to see in the years to come how it changes the mindset of individuals especially these stupid kids doing this remote learning. Someone told me recently that students were ALLOWED to opt out of the classroom to receive at home schooling. That to me is amazing..that kids can opt out. It was nearly half that did.

 

[Saltynuts]

Has nothing to do with that at all. Those decisions are made all the way from the top down, not by some middle manager with too few friends.

Fair enough, I was talking about smaller organizations. Not the ones yall talking about. Carry on.

 

[Apologetik]

WFM seems to work best in project oriented positions. If I need X done by X date I do not really care how it is done.

 

[kmiklas]

Not for nothing but this work from home Situation really has workers doing less than more, most at home workers now want to stay home and work and get paid the same big bucks for doing alot lot lot lot lot less. I'm reading many articles now about how most at home workers now want to stay home and work, looks like they have gotten used to the easy life of getting paid for not doing too much. Looks like most got a taste of the easy work from home life and don't want to change that...its pretty much like a continued vacation if you think of it...

I find that I work better from home, because I don't have to deal with a 3-hour commute every day.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Not for nothing but this work from home Situation really has workers doing less than more, most at home workers now want to stay home and work and get paid the same big bucks for doing alot lot lot lot lot less. I'm reading many articles now about how most at home workers now want to stay home and work, looks like they have gotten used to the easy life of getting paid for not doing too much. Looks like most got a taste of the easy work from home life and don't want to change that...its pretty much like a continued vacation if you think of it...

This is such an ignorant post. This might be how you personally operate sure.

 

[tsznecki]

One worrying thing, is that full time remote workers are more easily off-shored. Luckily India and china are in different time zones. But north americans could be more easily replaced by cheaper remote workers in central and south America.
This is going to put downward pressure on pay.

US corps don't offshore south. They offshore north to Canada.

 

[tsznecki]

The idea of remote workers just does not work. People are slacking off, they sleep, take frequent breaks, play around with family members, stroke their dick while working from home. Did you honestly expect that the mediocre work ethics of workers in offices will not drop much further by letting them work from home?

Whoa whoa! Don't project onto others what you do at home!

But hey how do you setup your sex doll in your 20 square meter room?

 

[tsznecki]

Not for nothing but this work from home Situation really has workers doing less than more, most at home workers now want to stay home and work and get paid the same big bucks for doing alot lot lot lot lot less. I'm reading many articles now about how most at home workers now want to stay home and work, looks like they have gotten used to the easy life of getting paid for not doing too much. Looks like most got a taste of the easy work from home life and don't want to change that...its pretty much like a continued vacation if you think of it...

Here we have an example of someone who couldn't work from home and is bitter about it.

@S2007S sorry you aren't working from home because you have to give blowjobs behind Wendy's to fund your $5 ETrade account after you blew up shorting a 10+ year bull market.

 

[Snuskpelle]

i got a friend who works for Amazon AWS team. they want these guys back to "foster collaboration". Something about working remotely hinders innovation

Same with the tech companies I'm consulting for. My interpretation is the delays in responses and other mental barriers to interacting fully naturally in remote calls is the source of drag on innovativeness. Some tech companies do just fine being remote only though so not sure what the difference is in how they do things.

That said, I do hope for a greater degree of flexibility on average becomes the new norm after COVID. People should be able to work out of offices sometimes, and all the time if they take a pay cut reflecting the fact they will be less innovative/cooperative.

 

[Millionaire]

US corps don't offshore south. They offshore north to Canada.

My current tech company uses some remote Mexicans.

This is not traditional offshoring, but a remotely distributed team.
A team might be 2 people in London, 2 in eastern europe, 2 in Mexico and 2 in the US.

The thing i see, if you have 10 team members currently all working remotely in various US locations.
The temptation will to use a few team members from abroad, in the same timezone, as it makes little difference when none of the team is in the same office location anyway.

When Facebook says 50% of workers will be remote in 5 to 10 years time, you can bet they don't mean all remotely located within the USA.