Why are we borrowing even more to give Pakistan more aid?

Quote from drcha:

Agree with sending them personal funds--those people are suffering in ways that we will never have to. That's the E in ET: the fact that you are even posting here means you are one of the lucky few on this planet. Almost entirely the luck of the draw.

From a national perspective, I guess we are supposed to think that America is trying to win hearts and minds. But what good is that when those hearts and minds are not free? The Pakistani people cannot change things over there any more than we can.

The world is run by a small group of megalomaniacs and narcissists. Nearly every national leader is one, and most legislative and military bodies are largely composed of them. The sooner we face that, the sooner the rest of us who have feelings and consciences can try to figure out what to do about it.

Personally, I have no idea what to do about it. My admittedly extremely lame approach is to basically ignore it. Get up, work hard, trade a little, party a little, go to sleep, (what was the Meaning of Life? "take some vitamins, be nice to your mum"), vote against some of these asshole incumbents, send a few bucks to Pakistan, try to enjoy myself until I am on the other side of the grass. What else can we do? I'm open to any suggestions that don't involve gurus or guns. We have enough of those already.

All these arguments about Democrats, Republicans, Tea Bags and everything else are misplaced. The groups in power like to throw fat on the fire to keep us arguing with each other and distract us from the real problem: that all the individuals in political power are interested only in themselves and in keeping their fat asses in a position of power. They will kill your sons and daughters (not to mention the sons and daughters of other nations) to do it. Whether we as a nation send funds to Pakistan or not, it gives us (the masses) something to argue about--something that has nothing to do with the real problem. As long as the powers that be can whip up some widespread anger, pride, fear, or whatever the emotion du jour is, there is no danger that you will begin to focus on the real problem.

Maybe traders--some of whom have necessarily learned to operate on something other than emotion--could be a good resource for coming up with some alternatives.

I guess I have really hijacked this thread but I don't know why it's on Wall St. News anyway, except that all news seems to qualify as WS news in this news-driven market.

I am totally on board with everything you said. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but it is refreshing when you find someone who does think similarly. More than just agreeing with you, I've been more and more actively pondering these questions lately.
 
Quote from drcha:

...what was the Meaning of Life...
send a few bucks to Pakistan...
as a nation send funds to Pakistan...

Nothing good in life comes easy. If you *really* want to make a difference to someone's life, which is a great deal, do some good research.Find a NGO or individual who'll take proper care of your funds.

Simply giving your money in the hands of their government is like a teenager on drugs just for the sake of 'being cool'.
 
Quote from trader#21:

Nothing good in life comes easy. If you *really* want to make a difference to someone's life, which is a great deal, do some good research.Find a NGO or individual who'll take proper care of your funds.

Simply giving your money in the hands of their government is like a teenager on drugs just for the sake of 'being cool'.

that's a valid point
 
Paki hardliners are blaming US for manipulating the weather patterns to cause rain and they are blaming India for letting loose its dams to overflow Paki rivers.

This is the response from very irresponsible, fanatic and corrupt and thus evil people at the helm of the Pak government. Sadly US is still trusting these parties despite knowing everything about them.
 
I'm Pakistani. The thing is, government structure is extremely corrupt. If you give aid to govt accounts, it's gonna end up in a politicians swiss account. There are some areas where the army has blocked the government from "aid operations." The army here is more principled and perceived honest. They've been at the frontline of all disasters and conflicts. The army here is a million strong, composed mainly of seculars. So I dont know where the idea of a couple of hundred fanatics taking over government and nukes developed. They need more than blowing a few things up randomly to take over. There are believed to be 3000 terrorists in pakistan. In a nation of 160 million, i dont see how that equates us to being enemies. 9/11 you guys lost 3000. Sad, but Pakistanis have lost more than 30000 as a result of suicide bombings, anti terrorist operations etc. We've also killed off at least 17000 terrorists. Due to counter terrorist operations 2 million people were displaced. When they got back to their homes the floods came. It pisses me off when some armchair strategist says we are your enemies.
The average pakistani, has a few kids, trying to make ends meet and improve his standard of living. The middle class pakistani, gets an education, a decent job, etc. Doesn't sound all that different does it? I don't know what you guys get fed on tv, but the typical citizen simply doesn't have the f&&%)!in time to be conspiring against anyone. Think about it, equating pakistanis with terrorists is like saying the KKK represents christianity. absurd. There are a bunch of fringe lunatics, who use our religion as an excuse to impale anyone they like, they are raiders, bandits, kidnappers, arsonists. That's about all.
 
Quote from toc:

Paki hardliners are blaming US for manipulating the weather patterns to cause rain and they are blaming India for letting loose its dams to overflow Paki rivers.

This is the response from very irresponsible, fanatic and corrupt and thus evil people at the helm of the Pak government. Sadly US is still trusting these parties despite knowing everything about them.

The comment is not by us. It's by some loonie russian scientist who goes by the name Dr. Andrey Areshev. He probably hasn't got laid in a while.
 
Quote from dakoo:

The comment is not by us...

That's the trouble, that comment (or similar comment) is by representatives of Pak in general. Some representatives (leaders) of Pak are likely to be hostile, and cause damage to humanity. No one gives a shit about the common man.

Both Indi and Pak are fuck-d up because of their representatives (leaders). US goverment sending money to pak government is asinine.
 
I don't believe this whole terrorist bullsh1t. Our government said they hate our freedom and that's why we got bombed. This is the biggest bullsh1t. Maybe it has something to do that our government invaded their countries? After all, these guy don't have tank, missile and aircraft.

I just don't understand this, what right does the US government has to go into other countries in the name of freedom. The only right we seem to have is a bigger gun than others so we can do what we want. Like take their money and women.
 
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