Why are some people still refusing to get Covid vaccine?

[WeToddDid2]

MRNA vaccines have been researched for over two decades. There is plenty of available data regarding them.

@UsualName

The CDC, Biden admin, and the NIH have been consistently WRONG.

1. Get vaxxed and you won't get infected = WRONG
2. Get vaxxed and you won't spread covid = WRONG
   
3. Get vaxxed and you won't get sick = WRONG
4. Get vaxxed and you won't get seriously ill = WRONG
5. Immunity from vaxxes are long lasting = WRONG
6. Get 3 jabs and you won't get infected = WRONG

https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-shot-later-infected-with-covid-19/

TV: 14 Israelis who got 3rd shot later infected with COVID-19

 

[jem]

Of course of it can. Don't even pretend have argued otherwise.
But... its pretty fucking rare for a healthy person and a natural virus...
not so rare for vaccine tested on corona viruses in animals.... correct?


2. But would what is more risky... using a vaccine that so far looks like it will need boosters regularly because it loses efficacy and does not cover new variants well... or

relying on your immune system if you are in the low risk category?

very important to read this...


I will agree if this covid is of un natural origin and comes out of the high risk vaccinated... it becomes harder to count on your unnatural immune system for future variants.


So if I see a variant wiping out people in my risk group...
and a booster which is showing success. I will be all over the booster.

Just so you know, ADE can happen to people who have had infection and develop antibodies that way. For example, dengue hemorrhagic fever is a type of naturally occurring ADE.

 

[jem]

And its still close to statistically non existent .. in young and healthy people who get natural vitamin D.

Using stats... prove otherwise.

I have shown you there have only been 2 deaths in my major metro area under 19 and I know at least one of them was high risk from reading the local news.

We can forecast the increased deaths from Covid if people don't get vaccinated.

 

[wrbtrader]

@UsualName

The CDC, Biden admin, and the NIH have been consistently WRONG.

1. Get vaxxed and you won't get infected = WRONG
2. Get vaxxed and you won't spread covid = WRONG
   
3. Get vaxxed and you won't get sick = WRONG
4. Get vaxxed and you won't get seriously ill = WRONG
5. Immunity from vaxxes are long lasting = WRONG
6. Get 3 jabs and you won't get infected = WRONG

https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-shot-later-infected-with-covid-19/

TV: 14 Israelis who got 3rd shot later infected with COVID-19

To be fair, I would be very concerned if I lived in Israel and was considering taking the specific vaccines not discussed in the article...latter important considering Israel is using different vaccines.

I believe they have 2 approved vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) and 1 vaccine in clinical trials (IIBR).

Thus, it would be interesting to know which booster shot was given (Pfizer or Moderna) and if they were tested for Covid prior to being given the booster shot.

Yet, I live in North America and that's where my focus is at...completely different Covid dynamics than what's occurring in Israel.

They did give a disclaimer at the top of the article...

Limited data not enough to draw conclusions on booster's effectiveness.

wrbtrader

 

[gwb-trading]

And its still close to statistically non existent .. in young and healthy people who get natural vitamin D.

Using stats... prove otherwise.

I have shown you there have only been 2 deaths in my major metro area under 19 and I know at least one of them was high risk from reading the local news.

The Delta Variant Is Making Covid a Pandemic of the Young
Children and teens have been spared the worst of the pandemic, but without vaccines they’re sitting ducks as the virus rages. What risks are they facing?
https://www.wired.com/story/the-delta-variant-is-making-covid-a-pandemic-of-the-young/

Children's hospitals plead Biden for 'immediate help' in 'capacity crisis'
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...d-biden-for-immediate-help-in-capacity-crisis

Florida Covid Death Report Hits Record; Younger Adults Die
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...eath-report-hits-record-younger-residents-die

Nurse Describes COVID's Delta Variant Patients as 'Younger, Sicker, Dying Quicker
https://www.newsweek.com/nurse-desc...patients-younger-sicker-dying-quicker-1623805

Young unvaccinated adults are ‘very sick’ in hospital with Covid
https://inews.co.uk/news/chris-whit...hospital-covid-england-1160483?ito=smart-news

 

[gwb-trading]

@UsualName

The CDC, Biden admin, and the NIH have been consistently WRONG.

1. Get vaxxed and you won't get infected = WRONG
2. Get vaxxed and you won't spread covid = WRONG
   
3. Get vaxxed and you won't get sick = WRONG
4. Get vaxxed and you won't get seriously ill = WRONG
5. Immunity from vaxxes are long lasting = WRONG
6. Get 3 jabs and you won't get infected = WRONG

https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-israelis-who-got-3rd-shot-later-infected-with-covid-19/

TV: 14 Israelis who got 3rd shot later infected with COVID-19

Let's actually read the article. It is hardly surprising the immunocompromised or elderly were the few facing this issue.

Eleven of the 14 cases were over the age of 60, and the remaining three were immunocompromised individuals under 60, the network said. The two that were hospitalized were over 60.


According to the network, two of those infected after receiving the booster shot have been hospitalized.


It was not immediately clear whether the 14 contracted the virus before or after receiving the booster. Such sporadic instances would not be enough for medical officials to draw conclusions as to the third dose’s general effectiveness in fighting off the Delta variant of the disease.

Some 420,000 Israelis have been administered a third booster shot so far, in a drive that began last week.

 

[jem]

Why wont you produce stats about young and healthy vs high risk?
I agree the high risk should seriously consider the vaccine.
I have told relatives the same. I am stunned a heavy set relative with hashimotos is not..

I think its criminal given current stats and temporary benefits... to give the vax to a young healthy athletic kids who have already had delta. Unless they are living with high risk,

The Delta Variant Is Making Covid a Pandemic of the Young
Children and teens have been spared the worst of the pandemic, but without vaccines they’re sitting ducks as the virus rages. What risks are they facing?
https://www.wired.com/story/the-delta-variant-is-making-covid-a-pandemic-of-the-young/

Children's hospitals plead Biden for 'immediate help' in 'capacity crisis'
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...d-biden-for-immediate-help-in-capacity-crisis

Florida Covid Death Report Hits Record; Younger Adults Die
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...eath-report-hits-record-younger-residents-die

Nurse Describes COVID's Delta Variant Patients as 'Younger, Sicker, Dying Quicker
https://www.newsweek.com/nurse-desc...patients-younger-sicker-dying-quicker-1623805

Young unvaccinated adults are ‘very sick’ in hospital with Covid
https://inews.co.uk/news/chris-whit...hospital-covid-england-1160483?ito=smart-news

 

[smallfil]

Americans should start suing doctors and hospitals who continue to refuse to use Ivermectin which is an FDA approved drug. This is not the same one used on animals but, the lies continue and people are needlessly dying. Finally, a judge does the right thing. Extreme liberal idiots can have their vaccinations and intubation. Let us see who lives or dies. 80% of intubated patients with Corona Virus end up dying.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ohio-judge-orders-hospital-treat-151855662.html

 

[wrbtrader]

smallfil the troll,

Ivermectin is not approved for the treatment of Covid in North America.

More importantly, we have approved antiviral therapeutic treatments plus monoclonal antibody treatment centers popping up all over North America especially in the southern 10 states of America...all of which are highly successful in treating Covid illness of those not vaccinated that become hospitalized.

Just as important, there are states that do have physicians that will give Ivermectin treatments to anyone that desires such...info easily searchable in Google in which you'll find name of Doctors, addresses and phone numbers.

Yet, remember this fact, health insurance companies are requiring their
Covid ill clients to pay for their Ivermectin treatment even any associated hospital care because its not approved by the FDA for treatment of Covid.

P.S. President Trump did not use Ivermectin. He instead used North American approved antiviral medical treatments with emergency use antiviral therapeutic medical treatments.

Same for Governor Abbott of Texas.

wrbtrader

 

[Cuddles]

smallfil the troll,

Ivermectin is not approved for the treatment of Covid.

More importantly, we have approved antiviral therapeutic treatments plus monoclonal antibody treatment centers popping up all over North America especially in the southern 10 states of America...all of which are highly successful in treating Covid illness of those not vaccinated that become hospitalized.

wrbtrader

little do redhats know, monoclonal IV bags are getting the same sterilizing, mind controlling, 5g microchips as the vaccines.