Why are some people still refusing to get Covid vaccine?

[WeToddDid2]

Can you show me any data from 3 years+ out showing that there hasn't been any long term effects on reproductive systems or in generally at all from vaccines? No, because it doesn't exist. Full stop. Anyone dismissing the possibility of it is as ridiculous as stating vaccines don't help.

Don't quote me out of context if you want to keep it civil. What I wrote regarding "we don't know what it is on the Vax side" is not regarding side effects now, it is regarding side effects on the reproduction cycle on a time scale no one could possibly have data on unless they had a time machine.

Yes, statistically the data although minimal looks decent for getting vaxxed regarding pregnancy or going into pregnancy now. However, no one knows what it may be in the future. Could we just be getting good results now? Maybe, no one knows.

Statistically, right now the data favors getting vaxxed. But right now is but one moment in time, and everyone needs to consider the other moments in time(the future) where there may be a problem because the facts/data changes.

End of the day, it's a bet. Unfortunately you can't reverse getting vaxxed, so if you are wrong on the bet on potential future issues from the vax, there's no reset button.

Exactly!

There is not enough data.

 

[Nine_Ender]

the unvaccinated are spreading the china virus to the vaccinated and killing them apparently

do you guys remember asking everyone 2 years ago if they had the flu shot? no because you know yours works

also didnt vaccines used to give you the antibodies to fight off the virus and never get sick? like you come in contact with the flu but dont get it because your body could kill it before it got you sick. why are vaccines different now with a new purpose of "making symptoms less severe"? you're not even supposed to get sick if you are vaccinated

I have to laugh as some of you ignorant fools ramble on incoherently about Covid as thousands of your unvaccinated Americans drop dead. Hey you got a like from "Smallfil" you are attracting interest in your ideas from the mentally insane wing of Elite Trader.

 

[tsznecki]

As noted by the CDC there has never been a vaccine side-effect that has not shown up in the first two months. This is why are all vaccines only six months of data must be submitted for full approval.

People pushing claims of "long term vaccine effects" are pushing anti-vaxxer nonsense.

I don't believe you understand logic very well, even though you are able to link to sources.

Can you say with 100% certainty that there has never been and never will be a vaccine side effect that will not show up in the first two months?

Because if you say yes, you need to check yourself for some of that nonsense too.

 

[WeToddDid2]

As noted by the CDC there has never been a vaccine side-effect that has not shown up in the first two months. This is why are all vaccines only six months of data must be submitted for full approval.

People pushing claims of "long term vaccine effects" are pushing anti-vaxxer nonsense.

These vaccines are not like any of the previous vaccines in history.

You cannot compare previous vaccines to the rMNA vaccines.

 

[gwb-trading]

These vaccines are not like any of the previous vaccines in history.

You cannot compare previous vaccines to the rMNA vaccines.

MRNA vaccines have been researched for over two decades. There is plenty of available data regarding them.

 

[gwb-trading]

I don't believe you understand logic very well, even though you are able to link to sources.

Can you say with 100% certainty that there has never been and never will be a vaccine side effect that will not show up in the first two months?

Because if you say yes, you need to check yourself for some of that nonsense too.

Well show us an example of a vaccine side effect in humans for a vaccine approved in the U.S. which did not show up within the first two months of the Phase 3 trial. Feel free to go dig through all the CDC papers and information on this subject before answering.

Here are some articles for reference...

Vaccines are highly unlikely to cause side effects long after getting the shot
Science shows that even the most serious side effects for any vaccine, including COVID-19, occur within just a few weeks.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...use-side-effects-long-after-getting-the-shot-

Doctors say most COVID-19 vaccine side effects happen within two months of any shot
A common comment from the vaccine hesitant is concern for the long-term impacts of the COVID-19 shot. However, experts say we've likely seen all there is to see.
https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/h...shot/275-7a5fe649-d635-4683-bcb8-679112ebdc84

 

[tsznecki]

Well show us an example of a vaccine side effect in humans for a vaccine approved in the U.S. which did not show up within the first two months of the Phase 3 trial. Feel free to go dig through all the CDC papers and information on this subject before answering.

Don't deflect and throw the ball to me. Answer the question:

Can you say with 100% certainty that there has never been and never will be a vaccine side effect that will not show up in the first two months?

I'm asking you. What is your answer?

 

[gwb-trading]

Don't deflect and throw the ball to me. Answer the question:

Can you say with 100% certainty that there has never been and never will be a vaccine side effect that will not show up in the first two months?

I'm asking you. What is your answer?

Can you say with 100% certainty that there never has been and never will be a pig that grows wings and flies.

 

[tsznecki]

Can you say with 100% certainty that there never has been and never will be a pig that grows wings and flies.

Why can't you answer? Why deflect again? Unless you of course you know can't answer because you could be wrong.

 

[jem]

And there is no data showing long term benefits of mRNA vaccines...

But the NIH stated there is a risk of ADE...if the vaccinated can be infected. Which we learned in the last few months they can.

So stick to the truth and science...not your misrepresentations base on stale and limited data...

As noted many times before -- there are no long term side effects of vaccines that show up beyond the six month mark (actually the two month mark). Anyone pushing this "long term effects" being 3 years out or more is pushing pure anti-vaxxer nonsense.

The effective death rate of the vaccinated due to Covid is nearly zero as shown by the KFF data for states across the U.S. Similarly the effective hospitalization rate of the vaccinated due to breakthrough Covid is well below 1%. If your claims of "we don't know what it is on the Vax side" were true then we would have hospital wards full of vaccinated people with side-effects rather than full of unvaccinated with Covid.

All the research regarding the Covid vaccine on pregnant women demonstrate it is beneficial with no specific pregnancy-related side effects; nor are there any reproductive effects. However common problems for pregnant women catching Covid is generally hospitalization and possible death -- of both the mother and/or unborn child.

All 39 Pregnant Women Admitted to Alabama Hospital This Month Were Unvaccinated
https://www.insideedition.com/all-3...a-hospital-this-month-were-unvaccinated-69391

Alabama family mourns pregnant nurse, unborn child dead of COVID: ‘We’re glad she’s not suffering
https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2021...gnant-nurse-unborn-child-die-of-covid-19.html

Mom who wanted COVID-19 vaccine after pregnancy goes on ventilator after emergency C-section
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ves-birth-then-goes-ventilator-sc/5485996001/

'My missing piece': Nurse who lost baby to Covid highlights risks for pregnancies
"I just want Axel's legacy to be one that helps save someone, helps them get the vaccine, so that this never happens again," she said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...who-lost-baby-covid-highlights-risks-n1277351

99% of pregnant women in hospital with Covid haven’t had a vaccine, scientists warn
https://inews.co.uk/news/health/cov...ses-scientists-warning-1126889?ito=smart-news

'The vaccine was the safest thing': High Point woman encourages COVID-19 vaccine after recent pregnancy
https://www.wxii12.com/article/the-...courages-covid-19-vaccine-pregnancy/37220236#

CDC urges COVID vaccines during pregnancy as delta surges
https://apnews.com/article/health-c...men-vaccines-4e7f7231737a11fbe235fa7180dcfd3a

With millions of people vaccinated across the face of the earth -- it is very clear that that side-effects statistically for vaccines are greatly less than catching Covid.

Any reasonable person knows that the best "bet" based on the data is to get vaccinated -- to not only protect your health but the health of others in the community.