Why are people so secretive here?

[romanus]

Quote from pclark:

... but I am not looking for a handout. ...

ET remains to be a place that draws the people who want to learn how to trade. As such it represents a rather fascinating closed ecological system of various species of prey and predators:
1) learners (e.g. MandelbrotSet )
2) fakers (e.g. MAESTRO, who claims to be a quant and yet has no idea what a stable distribution really is)
3) predators (e.g. austinp, who attempts to sell to aspiring learners. Nice copywriting skills though - Constance Brown / maalox guy price failure pattern - rather creative, nice touch. But not good enough for the big league)
4) failures (e.g. lilduckling)

Some aren't so obvious in their tells, but it's irrelevant.

There are very few people who actually trade for a living and post information that is useful to somebody who wants to learn. ( and I am not one of them)


Once you find them, you will see how funny the question is in the title of this thread.

 

[naifwonder]

I believe helping others in business is a great endeavor. In fact, it is one that I love. However, trading is not like other businesses. Due to liquidity issues and the nature of the market, giving somebody else too much help could easily mean destroying your own system.

 

[romanus]

Quote from naifwonder:

I believe helping others in business is a great endeavor. In fact, it is one that I love. However, trading is not like other businesses. Due to liquidity issues and the nature of the market, giving somebody else too much help could easily mean destroying your own system.

What is it about liquidity issues and the nature of the market that would destroy a system if you give somebody else too much help?

And how much help is not too much as not to destroy a system and still be of help to somebody else?

Care to elaborate?

 

[lilduckling]

Quote from romanus:

ET remains to be a place that draws the people who want to learn how to trade. As such it represents a rather fascinating closed ecological system of various species of prey and predators:

You forgot to mention kool-aid addicts.

 

[romanus]

Quote from lilduckling:

You forgot to mention kool-aid addicts.

As a learner I have to try all drinks available to see which one is to my taste.

If you're implying something else - do not forget you admitted to being a failure in '05 and it seems that you're still operating in a failure mode.

Perhaps the road to the Guru status, a website and $995 online workshops is taking a bit longer than expected.

 

[lilduckling]

Quote from romanus:

As a learner I have to try all drinks available to see which one is to my taste.

You need to carve your own path and forget about sampling other peoples drinks.

You have the answer all along, but you have to look within, not out.

When you "awaken" its the greatest feeling in the world, and all the experts and gurus will then have the sole purpose of being your entertainment

 

[volente_00]

Quote from MAESTRO:

Could you please list the benefits that one would have for disclosing his/her winning strategy here on ET? What possible gain would I have teaching someone how to make reliable money? I perceive this entire site as a great source of entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. This forum is just one great place to kill the boredom while waiting for a trade.
Cheers,
Keep smiling!

I'm from the old school but a universal belief that I hold is if you want more of something you must first give it to recieve it. This holds true for money, love and knowledge. There comes a time when you no longer do what you love for the money. You do it for the love of the game and in return the money follows. I get more enjoyment out of helping others who are struggling than by actually making winning trades. Try it sometimes, you just may be surprised at the results.

 

[romanus]

Quote from lilduckling:

You need to carve your own path and forget about sampling other peoples drinks.

You have the answer all along, but you have to look within, not out.

When you "awaken" its the greatest feeling in the world, and all the experts and gurus will then have the sole purpose of being your entertainment

A bit metaphysical - but your copywriting skills are getting better. Keep at it, throw in some metaphors, may be attend a creative writing workshop at your local community college - and pretty soon you'll be as good as austinp.

The "awakening" part has not been beaten to death yet by the likes of him - so you might have a niche here.

 

[volente_00]

Quote from lilduckling:


You have the answer all along, but you have to look within, not out.

You are starting to sound like me lilduckling.

Quote from volente_00:

The pm's and emails that I have gotten over the years for helping others is worth more to me than any dollar amount. You must learn to give first young joey, before he will give it back to you tenfold in your life. Some get it, many never will and spend their life searching when all that they need is from within.

Quote from BoyBrutus:

Chariots of Fire (1981)

Eric Liddell:
You came to see a race today. To see someone win. It happened to be me. But I want you to do more than just watch a race. I want you to take part in it. I want to compare faith to running in a race. It's hard. It requires concentration of will, energy of soul. You experience elation when the winner breaks the tape - especially if you've got a bet on it. But how long does that last? You go home. Maybe you're dinner's burnt. Maybe you haven't got a job. So who am I to say, "Believe, have faith," in the face of life's realities? I would like to give you something more permanent, but I can only point the way. I have no formula for winning the race. Everyone runs in her own way, or his own way. And where does the power come from, to see the race to its end? From within...

 

[romanus]

Quote from volente_00:

I'm from the old school but a universal belief that I hold is if you want more of something you must first give it to recieve it. This holds true for money, love and knowledge. There comes a time when you no longer do what you love for the money. You do it for the love of the game and in return the money follows. I get more enjoyment out of helping others who are struggling than by actually making winning trades. Try it sometimes, you just may be surprised at the results.

Well, in order for him to try it, he first has to stop pretending he is quant and start making winning trades.