Why are gold stocks with strong fundamentals dropping?
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Hehe, when I saw this just now, all I could think about was pregnancy months. 5th, 6th, 7th...
What will happen when the Fed pops out the 9th-trillion baby? Abortion with a huuuge interest-rate hike? Yellen yellin' again?
I doubt the Fed can even raise interest rates again. The government cannot afford to service the interest on the debt if interest rates were normalized at 4%. We will have over $30 trillion in national debt by the end of 2021. The Fed basically has to keep the Fed Funds rate at 0% and keep monetizing debt to keep the 10 year under 1%.
Aside from holding gold and silver coins (junk), I have stock in RING. It's an ETF of gold mining stocks. Yeah, it has dropped, but I've done a covered call on it. .5% dividend on it too. Just hold and wait I say. As the government prints money, rates should rise. Gold/silver should hold their value. Diversity is the way I go. My holdings of RING is more insurance than income...
Gold has always been a shitty hedge against inflation outside of a currency crisis. Normalize gold/usd with housing prices and you know what I mean.
On top of it, there is a new generation that is not willing to pay the ridiculous prices of buying and owning physical gold.
We could see a nice rally in Jan/Feb, tho as seasonality dictates but aside from that don't expect an explosion of gold and silver prices.
And btw folks: Bitcoin is not an inflation hedge
On top of it, there is a new generation that is not willing to pay the ridiculous prices of buying and owning physical gold.
We could see a nice rally in Jan/Feb, tho as seasonality dictates but aside from that don't expect an explosion of gold and silver prices.
And btw folks: Bitcoin is not an inflation hedge
That has almost no bearing on the current value of the miners themselves. Basically current stock prices you are getting a free call on any appreciation in Gold/Silver but will do fine regardless on a 1-2 year time horizon. When your all in costs are less then $1000 an ounce you make a lot of money even at $1500 Gold. Traders and many investors just haven't figured this out yet; at some point people will get in board just like they are on Cdn energy stocks right now. The main question isn't if it's when. I like energy more short term except for a few high torque miners.
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I think you still confuse fundamentals with reasons for stock price fluctuations. If people don't like 'em, they won't buy 'em.
Gold is trash at the moment and it' s getting sold. Why would people jump into miners now?
Also you have to ask yourself: are miners too low or gold too high?
If any, I would trade a basket of long miners vs. short gold. Long miners are a coinflip
Patient investors can do very well with cyclicals if they understand the cycle. Don't be thrown off by traders with an attention span of a day ( or even an hour for some of them ). Kinross is incredibly cheap but may stay so short term. I've never liked Barrick I prefer higher torque plays in markets like this and many of those remain close to yearly highs while the big miners corrected huge. However, as an investment you can't go too far wrong now buying any miner with solid earnings reports.
I don't think you understand how value plays work, or the normal behavior of cyclicals. Value is value; market noise and short term trader opinions don't matter. I suppose it's possible that this bull cycle in miners ended in 6 months, but normally they last at least 2-3 years. Guess we'll find out.