Why are 2020 Democrats so weird?

[userque]

I would re-read my post. It was clear and straightforward. I did not compare Obama and Trump. I said Obama lowered the bar first. If there was no Obama, then there would be no Trump. This thread is about the 2020 Democratic candidates. If you want to start a thread comparing Obama and Trump, go ahead and do it.

I'm not starting a new thread, I'm responding to your posts in this thread.

Again, Obama didn't lower the bar.
Again, Obama was more qualified that Trump.
Again, Obama was less weird than Trump.

All of the above are obvious and can be strongly supported by evidence.

Trump doesn't need a low bar to run for President. He's extremely narcissistic and appears to have a low IQ. If he decides to run, he'd run regardless of "the bar." (As he did unsuccessfully and briefly in the past ... before Obama. So no, Trump didn't run again because of Obama.)

Again, if you don't want serious debate, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Consider occasionally admitting when you're wrong. It would do wonders for your credibility.

 

[Tom B]

I'm not starting a new thread, I'm responding to your posts in this thread.

Again, Obama didn't lower the bar.
Again, Obama was more qualified that Trump.
Again, Obama was less weird than Trump.

All of the above are obvious and can be strongly supported by evidence.

Trump doesn't need a low bar to run for President. He's extremely narcissistic and appears to have a low IQ. If he decides to run, he'd run regardless of "the bar." (As he did unsuccessfully and briefly in the past ... before Obama. So no, Trump didn't run again because of Obama.)

Again, if you don't want serious debate, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Consider occasionally admitting when you're wrong. It would do wonders for your credibility.

You are wrong again. After Obama was elected to the Senate, he basically started running for president. He had less relevant experience for the presidency than anyone in modern history. That equates to lowering the bar.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Consider occasionally admitting when you're wrong. It would do wonders for your credibility.

 

[kingjelly]

You have the world’s record of longest uninterupted inhalation of a doobie? Trump is one of the most qualified Presidents we ever had. Obama was the least qualified President we ever had. Community organizing and pot smoking versus creating a successful multibillion dollar business, for example.

But excuse me from interupting your high. I wish you the best in breaking your own apparent inhalation record.

Yes, he managed to turn a billion into hundreds of millions. He's not a great businessman by a long shot, not terrible, but not good either. Do your homework. The country is not a business anyway.

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

Yes, he managed to turn a billion into hundreds of millions. He's not a great businessman by a long shot, not terrible, but not good either. Do your homework. The country is not a business anyway.

For any credibility, you might want to be honest with yourself, not make inaccurate statements that are easily verified, and think through what you write.

The best way to manage a Government that is based on Capitalism or otherwise is to run it like a business. Government is much more efficient when there is accountability and planning. The use of Government as a platform to transfer wealth without sufficent justification is corruption, even when you may be the beneficiary.

 

[kingjelly]

For any credibility, you might want to be honest with yourself, not make inaccurate statements that are easily verified, and think through what you write.

The best way to manage a Government that is based on Capitalism or otherwise is to run it like a business. Government is much more efficient when there is accountability and planning. The use of Government as a platform to transfer wealth without sufficent justification is corruption, even when you may be the beneficiary.

Lol that's funny, verify away. Trump's companies have declared 6 bankruptcies, he counted the first 3 as 1 if you want fact check, so let's just say 3. That's verifiable. To your second point that is absolutely false, the most efficient government is a benevolent dictatorship, which is why China will destroy us in the end. The government is not a business, it's to serve the people. Lastly the budget deficit is $234B in Feb that's verifiable, heading to new highs in a great economy. Yes please school me on Trumps business acumen.

You really need to watch A&Es bio on him, it's not a hit job or anything like that. He got hit with some bad breaks in real estate and he is a survivor no doubt, he just shouldn't be leading a country.

 

[kingjelly]

And for the record I don't want any AOC crazy leftists running the country either. I do want universal health care, I am pro choice, and pro fuck or marry whatever sex makes you happy, other than that, I think I am closer to what republicans used to be. I have my issues I care about and I have my reasons, but they aren't just blanket one side or the other.

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

Lol that's funny, verify away. Trump's companies have declared 6 bankruptcies, he counted the first 3 as 1 if you want fact check, so let's just say 3. That's verifiable. To your second point that is absolutely false, the most efficient government is a benevolent dictatorship, which is why China will destroy us in the end. The government is not a business, it's to serve the people. Lastly the budget deficit is $234B in Feb that's verifiable, heading to new highs in a great economy. Yes please school me on Trumps business acumen.

You really need to watch A&Es bio on him, it's not a hit job or anything like that. He got hit with some bad breaks in real estate and he is a survivor no doubt, he just shouldn't be leading a country.

Although it is amusing reading the posts of those who obviously don’t understand business or why some countries have a higher standard of living than others or even the sense of knowing which countries provide the greatest economic opportunities, it is also pathetic. Where you you think wealth comes from? The Government? Wake up.

Trump has started several hundred businesses. A few of them failed. Even on those failed businesses, Trump won on his personal bottom line through court dismissed or reduced debt as a result of his bankruptsies. Trump admitted publically several times he used bankruptsy laws in his favor. Early in Trump’s business life, he took a few hundred million and turned it into a negative billion net worth. Now Trump is worth several billions of dollars. Trump has won because he is a winner. He did not let his earlier life mistakes define him. He is a multibillionaire, the President of the United States over all the other Republican and Democratic contenders, and has a model wife who many consider as attractive. Trump is a winner in some of the most significant measures of life performance.

Failing early in one’s career but ultimately succeeding is far more impressive than those who have never achieved anything in their life.

Care for a toke or drink, yet?

 

[kingjelly]

Although it is amusing reading the posts of those who obviously don’t understand business or why some countries have a higher standard of living than others or even the sense of knowing which countries provide the greatest economic opportunities, it is also pathetic. Where you you think wealth comes from? The Government? Wake up.

Trump has started several hundred businesses. A few of them failed. Even on those failed businesses, Trump won on his personal bottom line through court dismissed or reduced debt as a result of his bankruptsies. Trump admitted publically several times he used bankruptsy laws in his favor. Early in Trump’s business life, he took a few hundred million and turned it into a negative billion net worth. Now Trump is worth several billions of dollars. Trump has won because he is a winner. He did not let his earlier life mistakes define him. He is a multibillionaire, the President of the United States over all the other Republican and Democratic contenders, and has a model wife who many consider as attractive. Trump is a winner in some of the most significant measures of life performance.

Failing early in one’s career but ultimately succeeding is far more impressive than those who have never achieved anything in their life.

Care for a toke or drink, yet?

Really... watch it, educate yourself. I would also suggest you learn the meaning of goodwill. No argument on Melania, would tap that ass till it gave out. Remember also that he was born into it, whether it's $770m or $10b (I can tell you which one is closer if you like).

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

Really... watch it, educate yourself. I would also suggest you learn the meaning of goodwill. No argument on Melania, would tap that ass till it gave out. Remember also that he was born into it, whether it's $770m or $10b (I can tell you which one is closer if you like).

Trump’s reported inheritance is all over the place. Some adjust for inflation, some do not. Bottom line is Trump is worth several billion dokars more than almost everyone else, including thise who started earlier in life. In addition, Trump has real value add with his management style. From his show, The Apprentice, where he provides the audience mini case studies on business issues to his ability to read people and determine if their idea has value to his get it done attitude. Trump is direct and calls out BS such as political correctness or media manipulation when he sees it.

I challenge you to watch the real life show called reality and try to put your media bestowed biases aside. It helps to understand the what should be self-evident basic principles our Founding Fathers had for our rights, culture, and governance.

I will look at the video you mentioned and report back. Although Trump has his flaws, he is what we need now given the alternatives. And yes, the current budget deficit is an abomination on so many levels. Besides, I would think social program seeking Leftists would want someone to “strengthen the host”, as it were, so socialist parasites have longer term “subsidy security”.

 

[kingjelly]

Thank you for being open minded enough to watch it. I am not for full lefty policies either, I just have my issues I care about and I have my reasons or I guess you could say life experiences that have shaped these. I can tell you this, if the left runs pushing a FTT big, I won't vote for them, won't vote for Trump either, but just sayin.