"Why America was nuked"

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oooohhh, how ya like that publisher?? how's that feel buddy? need some KY jelley with that?? mmmhmmmm yeah, thats what i thought....

It only proves that they oppose the war anno 2007. In 2003, they certainly did not oppose the war. Jews can easily oppose the war now (they want a new one against Iran), as their interests are no longer threatened by Iraq.


March 2003 poll by Gallup.

Even with over 70% of Americans in favor of the war, New Yorkers still disagree. "A poll released this week showed that just after the conflict began, New Yorkers became more supportive of the war and President Bush's handling of the conflict. Still, even as about 70 percent of all Americans back the war, just 47 percent of New Yorkers support it, while 49 percent oppose it," reported the Chicago Tribune.(2) So much for the conservative idiots who think that Californians oppose the war, because they haven't been to the World Trade Center.(3)

In California, the Los Angeles Times reported on March 6th, "With the United States on the precipice of war, Californians disapprove of President Bush's handling of Iraq, and half do not trust him to make the right decision on whether to take military action, a new Los Angeles Times Poll has found.

"Three in five Californians believe the U.S. should not invade Iraq without the United Nations' backing, the poll found. . . . only one in four Californians said the president should take military action now rather than allowing the U.N. arms inspectors to continue their work in Iraq."(4)

Even within California, a bare majority of whites in the four-county area of Sacramento supported the invasion even before it started, while only 44% of "non-whites" did. Yolo County opposed the war and the other three supported it for a total of 51% supporting the war in the Sacramento area, just before the invasion started. (2) Again, what this means is that in the suburbs and rural areas, the war has support, but in Los Angeles and San Francisco, the opposition is overwhelming, whether the people in those cities even know it or not. The same poll of Sacramento found 65% support for the invasion in the Sierra area of Nevada, El Dorado County.

Those of us forgetting the gun-toting, SUV-driving, pickup-truck owning white trash and lower-middle class whites in the rural and interior parts of the country simply will not have an accurate picture of what is happening. The highest support for the war comes from the Bush voters in the South, Midwest and non-coastal West in the $30,000 to $50,000 income category.

There seems to be a dispute where Latinos stand. A poll prior to the war showed that 60% of New York and California "Hispanic" registered voters opposed the war. Another poll showed that 43% opposed the war and 48% supported in February. A more recent survey shows 67% "Hispanic" support for the war on Iraq.(5)

*56% of gays/lesbians/bisexuals/transsexuals oppose the idea of going to war without UN approval and without UN inspectors finding weapons of mass destruction.
*Only 31% of gays/lesbians/bisexuals/transsexuals trust George W. Bush to make the correct decisions on the Iraq question.(6)
*59% of Jews support the war, less than the average of 7 in 10, according to the American Jewish Committee. MIM has tried to tell people for a long time that there is a difference between Jews inside the U$A and those settling on land in Palestine. 73% of Israelis supported invading Iraq.

That proves that most Jews supported the war. But even if they didn't, that wouldn't change the fact that we went to war for Israel - simply because the Zionist Neocons believed that America should go to war for Israel, as I have extensively documented in previous posts.

Iraq was a war for Israel. It's a 100% provable fact. I defy you to search for valid argumentation to contradict this fact.

 

[dddooo]

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It only proves that they oppose the war anno 2007. In 2003, they certainly did not oppose the war.

Borat, what part of the quote do you not understand?

"American Jews were far less enthusiastic about going to war in 2003 than were other Americans (Only 50-some percent supported the war as opposed to 75% of the general public)."
http://www.juancole.com/2007/02/american-jews-blacks-fiercest-opponents.html

And it's coming from Juan Cole - known Jew/Israel hater.

 

[Publisher]

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Borat, what part of the quote do you not understand?

"American Jews were far less enthusiastic about going to war in 2003 than were other Americans (Only 50-some percent supported the war as opposed to 75% of the general public)."
http://www.juancole.com/2007/02/american-jews-blacks-fiercest-opponents.html

And it's coming from Juan Cole - known Jew/Israel hater.

Jews play both sides of the political fence. They control both Democrats and Republicans. Many of those currently opposed voted FOR action to topple Saddam. It's easy for them to backtrack now, knowing there won't be a withdrawal anytime soon. 50-some percent, actually 56%, of Jews in America supporting the war constitutes a majority, and that was all I said. Reread my post. I never stated that an "overwelming majority" of American Jewry supported the war.

When the war was proposed, polls showed about the same percentage of Jews for and against it as in the general population, although most Jews supported the war. Since then, opinion has turned against the war, and most people, Jewish and otherwise, of both party affiliations are now opposed. The Zionist core, however, remains strongly loyal.

We also note that most support for the war sprung up from the Christian right, the Republican voter base. The policy wonks formulating the foreign policy dependant on this war are the neocons, the Republican faction currently in power. The neocon ideological leadership is almost exclusively Jewish, such as William Kristol of The Weekly Standard, Jonah Goldberg and David Frum of the National Review, Charlse Krauthammer, and many others. The neocons are actually Trotskyite Jews, sort of like socialists with nice stock portfolios. Their political leadership is well-mixed with Gentiles, as we can see from the almost exclusively gentile Bush Administration. The only prominent Jews are the two secret police chiefs, Negroponte and Chertoff.

The strategic leadership is another cabal again, consisting of men like Douglas Feith, Elliot Abrams, and Richard Perle. They belong to a think tank called The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, and this group produced the outline for Middle Eastern policy, summarized in a White Paper entited A Clean Break, which can be seen here:

http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm

Note the signatories: Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser. These are all Likudnik Jews, and leading lights of the neocon bloc within the Republican Party. All except for Meyrav Wurmser went on to take low-profile but high-influence advisory positions in the first George Bush administration.

The policy is focused on securing Israeli interests in the region.

When we say that the invasion of Iraq was a war for the Jews. This is what we mean. We do not literally mean "For all the Jews". We do not mean this is a war demanded en masse by the Jews in America - although admittedly we sound like that sometimes. The real situation is a bit more complex. Nevertheless, the Zionists in America are responsible for this illegal war, and you are unable to prove the contrary.

 

[dddooo]

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When we say that the invasion of Iraq ...

We?

Nevertheless, the Zionists in America are responsible for this illegal war, and you are unable to prove the contrary.

It's not that I am unable to...

- first of all it's impossible to prove a negative and any reasonable adult knows that. I could just as easily claim that the war in Iraq was for Africa because Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice were part of the administration and ask you to prove the contrary.

- more importantly though most people find it below their dignity to debate a modern version of the Protocols with human filth like you. This, not a lack of arguments, is the main reason why almost no one responds to your posts.

 

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- first of all it's impossible to prove a negative and any reasonable adult knows that. I could just as easily claim that the war in Iraq was for Africa because Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice were part of the administration and ask you to prove the contrary
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Colin Powell and Rice have no history of promoting African nationalism. They didn't write a paper calling for war with Iraq, and they didn't fabricate lies about weapons of Mass Destruction with aid of an African county, Nor has the Iraq war benifited Africa in any way. Neoconservative Zionists did all these things.

One minute is all it took to refute crap like that. Please come up with more of it!

I will quote myself and I shall await your next idiotic post.

In the aftermath of the 2001 911 attacks, ardently pro-Zionist "neo-conservatives" in the Bush administration — who for years had sought a Middle East war to bolster Israel’s security in the region — exploited the tragedy to press their agenda. In this they were backed by the Israeli government, which also pressured the White House to strike Iraq.

The big promoters of the Iraq War were Neo conservatives such as Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, Feith, Kristol, Abrams, Frum, Podhoretz, and a host of other radically Jewish individuals and a few Gentiles thrown in for good measure. They are overwhelmingly Zionist Jews who have a long history of devotion to the radical Likud Party and to Israel above all else. They were the primary formulators and advocates of this war. And it is only the fact of massive Jewish, pro-Israel media in America that made their false claims against Iraq fly. The rest of the world was not fooled, but then the rest of the world, except perhaps Britain, does not have a media so dominated by Jewish extremists.

One of the major individuals with government connections who was behind the war was a Jewish Zionist named Richard Perle, who along with David Wurmser and Douglas Feith wrote a paper called “A Clean Break, a New Strategy for Securing the Realm.” It was all about creating a war with Iraq, Syria and Iran, and it was written FOR Israel, not America. We have followed that strategy right down the line. You probably already know that even the mainstream media acknowledges that the two main advocates of the war were Perle and Wolfowitz.

Many men close to the President at the time the war was launched were Jewish radicals, such as his chief speech writer David Frum, and the man who was his primary spokesman to
America and the world, Ari Fleischer.

Lastly, It has been revealed that much of the false evidence to justify the war was supplied by Israel.


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[dddooo]

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Colin Powell and Rice ... didn't write a paper calling for war with Iraq
They did not write a paper indeed, they invaded Iraq instead.

they didn't fabricate lies about weapons of Mass Destruction
Really? Colin Powell...the UN presentation... Condoleezza Rice... "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

Neoconservative Zionists did all these things.
Together with neoconservative Christians who don't represent Christianity, together with neoconservative blacks who don't represent Africa or african americans, together with neoconservative muslims and arabs (like Ahmed Chalabi and Co) who don't represent arabs or Islam. together with Italian Americans who don't represent Catholicism. So yes, together with all of them there were several neoconservative jews who don't represent american jews, Israel or Zionism.



One minute is all it took to refute crap like that.
You had nothing to refute as I did not make the claim that the war was for Africa because a few blacks were involved. Quite the opposite, I wanted to show the utter stupidity of such claims and the idiocy of your argument that the war was for Israel because several jews were involved. But you're too dumb to understand even that.

Anyway, I am through with you for now. Too many degenerates, too little time.

 

[Publisher]

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Colin Powell and Rice ... didn't write a paper calling for war with Iraq
They did not write a paper indeed, they invaded Iraq instead.

they didn't fabricate lies about weapons of Mass Destruction
Really? Colin Powell...the UN presentation... Condoleezza Rice... "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

Neoconservative Zionists did all these things.
Together with neoconservative Christians who don't represent Christianity, together with neoconservative blacks who don't represent Africa or african americans, together with neoconservative muslims and arabs (like Ahmed Chalabi and Co) who don't represent arabs or Islam. together with Italian Americans who don't represent Catholicism. So yes, together with all of them there were several neoconservative jews who don't represent american jews, Israel or Zionism.



One minute is all it took to refute crap like that.
You had nothing to refute as I did not make the claim that the war was for Africa because a few blacks were involved. Quite the opposite, I wanted to show the utter stupidity of such claims and the idiocy of your argument that the war was for Israel because several jews were involved. But you're too dumb to understand even that.

Anyway, I am through with you for now. Too many degenerates, too little time.

Neoconservative Zionists did all these things.
Together with neoconservative Christians who don't represent Christianity, together with neoconservative blacks who don't represent Africa or african americans, together with neoconservative muslims and arabs

The leaders of the Neoconservative movement are Zionists. They fabricated the evidence to invade Iraq and they fooled/brainwashed their lower ranks by doing so.

It's clear that your reading skills are on the level of a 5 year old child. Because of that, there is no point in continuing this conversation. In addition, it's quite annoying for a civilized person to debate with lying Jewish parasites. Keep telling yourself that "the world was created for me" (Sanhedrin 37a). "The land of Israel was created first, then the rest of the world...