Whoopi Goldberg suspended from 'The View' over Holocaust comments

d08 said:
Holocaust was not about race. For one, most Jews in Europe were and are heavily mixed with locals, genetic tests show most are actually more European than Jewish. You don't get Germanic or Slavic looks and pasty skin by living in the middle east for centuries.
On top of that, there were a large number of homosexuals, rebels, intellectuals in the internment camps. To say it was about race is to exclude all those people.

I find it funny how in the 21st century still, any opinion on the holocaust, even if mildly disagreeing with the narrative, is shut down immediately and begging for forgiveness starts.
"Free" countries indeed, as long as you parrot the narrative and don't question anything.
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gwb-trading said:
First let me say I am not a fan of Whoopi particularly and don't watch The View.

After reviewing her statement my thoughts are that Whoopi narrowly views "race" in context of black, brown, white.. while others have a broader view of what comprises "race" in regards to ethnicity, etc.

Historians have debated the Holocaust in context of "race". Seeing that the Germans actually had units in their army composed of men from the Middle East, Africa, and India -- it is hard to say the Nazi's were strictly prejudiced in regards to the color of your skin when sending individuals to concentration camps. A host of criteria were used - gays, gypsies, Jews, Poles and others were all selected for the camps. Which gets back to what comprises "race" -- is it religion, ethnicity, etc.

IMO this suspension of Whoopi for her comments regarding race is nothing more than political correctness and cancel culture run amok. Clearly she needed to clarify her comments and the context in which they were made -- but the two week suspension is a bit much for this situation in my opinion. Her comment opened an opportunity for those with an different view (e.g. Anti-Defamation League ) to speak up and help set her perspective straight or provide better context -- in effect making it a discussion and a good learning opportunity.

However we have reached the point where every comment is taken as offensive and it is impossible to put forward any opinion without a backlash of some type -- and an online mob demanding the person be cancelled. I don't really find what Whoopi stated as going over a line where she should be taken off the air for the comment -- especially since she followed up by providing context for her perspective regarding the comment and an apology to anyone who she hurt before being suspended.

Her comments from the article with context:

On Monday, while discussing a Tennessee school district banning the graphic novel "Maus," Goldberg said, "If you're going to do this, then let's be truthful about it because the Holocaust isn't about race."

Goldberg said instead it was about "man's inhumanity to man" and that both groups of people were white.

The longtime host of the talk show apologized on Monday night, saying on Twitter she had spoken to the head of the Anti-Defamation League about her comments.

MORE: Pulitzer-prize winning Holocaust book, 'Maus,' joins list of banned books in libraries, schools

As Jonathan Greenblatt of the Anti-Defamation League shared, 'The Holocaust was about the Nazi's systematic annihilation of the Jewish people -- who they deemed to be an inferior race.' I stand corrected," she wrote.

"The Jewish people around the world have always had my support and that will never waiver. I'm sorry for the hurt I have caused," she added.
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Eh....I didn't bother to read much of it but sounded like she was dismissing the "racial" component of it so 2 wk. suspension seems ok. Let's not forget what constitutes "races" has changed over the decades and one has to view it from the historical lens of what Nazis believed was race (probably some cranium measuring BS) which may be considered pseudoscience now a days & reflect nothing on what we believe to be race now. As to the makeup of the troops, Hitler was no example of a "master race" but they did have some weird caste/hierarchical system in which Jews were on the bottom rung even below blacks.

There likely is an ally component to letting things slide (Japanese, Italians, I think some middle east countries were axis).

FWIW: Fairly certain most neo nazis mutts would not make the cut of what previous generation racists believed to be 100% Aryan.

In honesty, while we don't have a word "racist (maybe prejudiced)" for different ethnic exclusions, it's well understood that ancient ethnic groups carried with them physical traits that were "racial". The physical makeup may have changed by intermixing but I have zero problem still labeling "racist" a prejudiced position that targets something someone cannot change from birth or upbringing.

Prime example of this as pointed out is Rwanda, literally same blacks being racists against their neighbors. They were being "racists" but until we have a better word for the type of prejudice carried in their actions, I have no problem using the term.
 
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Cuddles said:
There likely is an ally component to letting things slide (Japanese, Italians, I think some middle east countries were axis).
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Contrary to what most seem to believe, Hitler didn't suggest eradicating everyone who looked different. It was about races or vastly different cultures staying where they are. So there's no reason he would hate Japanese living in Japan.
 
d08 said:
Contrary to what most seem to believe, Hitler didn't suggest eradicating everyone who looked different. It was about races or vastly different cultures staying where they are. So there's no reason he would hate Japanese living in Japan.
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Hitler was an admirer of Eastern Asian cultures.
 
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As White people become the minority race in the USA. It appears that the new minority rulers are going to be more racist against Whites. Now the Supreme court hangs a job available sign NO WHITES NEED APPLY

There will need to be a more clear definition of what a minority is
We have had to deal with this in the past
One solution is for White people to prove they are a minority
Should we go back to this rule

The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th century in the United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ('one drop' of 'black blood')[1][2] is considered black
 
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