Who will protect us from the evil bong merchants?

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Rearden Metal

Not sure why this little technical problem happened, I just wanted to obnoxiously gloat about John Ashcroft's hospitalization today, and wish him a speedy death...um...recovery.

Karma's a bitch, motherfucker.
 
Of all the people in the Bush administration John Ashcroft is my least favorite. I didn't like him when he was in Missouri and I like him even less now that he brings his religious and moral righteousness to bear at the Federal level. BTW, is Tommy Chong still in prison?
 
amen to that...cheney & ashcroft's illnesses may be proof to me of a higher power...:D

i'll sure be praying for a speedy infection for fashcroft...
 
Rearden,

I hate to point this out to you, but we put just as many drug dealers and drug users in prison during the Clinton, Bush sr., and Reagan administrations. And I've got some more good news for you. If Kerry got elected, there would be even more in.

Just so you know, the reason drug users and dealers are sent away to prison has nothing to do with political ideology, i.e. cops don't really give a f*ck about politics. It's called bureaucracy and power. Most Mayors, Attorney Generals, Police commissioners, go after the drug community because they are easy to get.

Murders, rapists, gang leaders, those are very hard to get and costly I might ad. And it does not look good if the police are not getting anybody. Ahhh, now you guys see why Martha Stewart was pursued so heavily, because she was easy to get, they had the goods on her. Stop making this a political debate because it is not, I can assure you.
 
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Rearden,

I hate to point this out to you, but we put just as many drug dealers and drug users in prison during the Clinton, Bush sr., and Reagan administrations. And I've got some more good news for you. If Kerry got elected, there would be even more in.

Just so you know, the reason drug users and dealers are sent away to prison has nothing to do with political ideology, i.e. cops don't really give a f*ck about politics. It's called bureaucracy and power. Most Mayors, Attorney Generals, Police commissioners, go after the drug community because they are easy to get.

Murders, rapists, gang leaders, those are very hard to get and costly I might ad. And it does not look good if the police are not getting anybody. Ahhh, now you guys see why Martha Stewart was pursued so heavily, because she was easy to get, they had the goods on her. Stop making this a political debate because it is not, I can assure you.
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All of the above are things I've said here before many times, so I agree 100% with what you're saying. I've even quoted the line from Kerry's website where he proudly proclaims that he intends to keep the fascist war on drugs going full force. I've quoted the section of Orwell's 1984 explaining how and why these government actions are all about power.

Why did you take my Asscroft bashing as a Kerry or Democrat endorsement? It isn't. However, I do see Asscroft as a particularly overzealous fascist tyrant. The whole Tommy Chong fiasco may have never happened with an Al Gore appointed AG.
 
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All of the above are things I've said here before many times, so I agree 100% with what you're saying. I've even quoted the line from Kerry's website where he proudly proclaims that he intends to keep the fascist war on drugs going full force. I've quoted the section of Orwell's 1984 explaining how and why these government actions are all about power.

Why did you take my Asscroft bashing as a Kerry or Democrat endorsement? It isn't. However, I do see Asscroft as a particularly overzealous fascist tyrant. The whole Tommy Chong fiasco may have never happened with an Al Gore appointed AG.
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I don't think Ashcroft really has a lot to do with it. I think the local police commissioner has 10 times the authority in this area as Ashcroft does. And each commissioner is different. A lot of them take this as pride. When guys are dealing and using in their precinct or town, it reflects badly on them. Others could care less. No, I didn't take your comment on Ashcroft as a Kerry endorsement. I just think blaming Ashcroft for what the local police community choose to do is futile.
 
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I don't think Ashcroft really has a lot to do with it. I think the local police commissioner has 10 times the authority in this area as Ashcroft does. And each commissioner is different. A lot of them take this as pride. When guys are dealing and using in their precinct or town, it reflects badly on them. Others could care less. No, I didn't take your comment on Ashcroft as a Kerry endorsement. I just think blaming Ashcroft for what the local police community choose to do is futile.
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FWIW, I've heard from several sources that Asscroft was gearing up to attack the porn industry* and then 9/11 happened...they were going to use the old decency laws to spend tax money to collect votes. Say what you want about Janet Reno, but at least she didn't give a shit about porn.

* Presumably cheney did not tip Asscroft off about 9/11, or perhaps it was part of the smokescreen.
 
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