Dubya won in 2000 and 2004, Dole won in 1996, and Bush I won in 1992 and they all went on to get the nomination; so I'm not sure of your point???
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Who Will Get GOP Nomination
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Dubya won in 2000 and 2004, Dole won in 1996, and Bush I won in 1992 and they all went on to get the nomination; so I'm not sure of your point???
Seneca
Yeah and Huckabee won in 2008, Bush won in 2004 because he had no challenger! H Bush won in 1992 because there was no challenger! Bob Dole won 1988 and went on to lose. H Bush beat Reagan there in 1980 and went on to lose.
So in other words, since 1976, only once in 36 years did it show any significance! THAT was my point. LOL.
Thought we were discussing who gets GOP nomination not who won.
Looking at contested races Iowa winners went on to get the nomination in 2 of the past 4 with the 1980 race being basically a tie between Reagan and Bush I.
Seneca
Either way, it's not significant. It never is. After the Iowa caucus is over, no one ever talks about it again the rest of the race. But look, we'll make this really easy. I'm on the offer betting against her getting the nomination. You tell me the bet amount and you can lift the offer. Let's see how much conviction you really have. I'm betting you have none.
BTW, my data in the previous post was not who won the Presidency, but who actually ended up with the nomination.
To clear things up. Bush Won Iowa in 1980 and lost the primary. Dole won Iowa in 1988 and lost the primary. Huckabee won Iowa in 2008 and lost the Primary. And in 1984, 1992 and 2004 there were no challengers. This leaves only 2000 in Which Bush won Iowa and also won the primary. One time!
Believe you left out Dole in 1996. Again, in 50% of the past contested caucuses, the winner went on to get the GOP nomination.
And, 1980 was essentially a tie between Bush and Reagan. In 1976, Ford won Iowa and the nomination.
For the Dems. the record is 5 of the past 7 contested caucuses.
To me, Iowa is a much better predictor than I thought. Your
comments made me look up the record.
Back to the point of whether Bachmann has a chance, winning Iowa is a lot better than losing considering she still is a relative unknown.
Seneca
More lunacy from Michele Bachmann as she believes John Quincy Adams was a Founding Father
John Quincy Adams was born in 1767. Washington rotated his slaves out of PA to avoid freeing them if they were to stay in that state for a certain period of time. Jefferson's slaves weren't free until after he died - well 5 were free, the rest were sold off to pay the debt on his estate.
If she's trying to court the black vote, maybe she should've adopted some black kids from Botswana.
John Quincy Adams was born in 1767. Washington rotated his slaves out of PA to avoid freeing them if they were to stay in that state for a certain period of time. Jefferson's slaves weren't free until after he died - well 5 were free, the rest were sold off to pay the debt on his estate.
If she's trying to court the black vote, maybe she should've adopted some black kids from Botswana.
(start: sarcasm) Hey terrorist! Stop bashing on our founding fathers! They were blameless men with the highest moral values implanted in anything they ever did. Back off. (end: sarcasm)
Who cares? That inexperienced, incompetent idiot thinks we have 57 states! The other one, true seeker of the nature of "is", claimed that he never inhaled and didn't have sex with that woman!! Let's go back to what's important in this election, save the country from the liberals' deficit/spending addiction
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Who cares? That inexperienced, incompetent idiot thinks we have 57 states! The other one, true seeker of the nature of "is" never inhaled!! Let's go back to what's important in this election, save the country from the liberals' deficit/spending addiction
I imagine Bachmann and her supporters care as Obama is not running for the GOP nomination.
She is off to IMO a bad start spending more time explaining her gaffes than campaigning.
Seneca