Who will be the Dem candidate?

I doesn't matter who the candidate is
If it's all electronic with no paper trail, whoever controls the machines gets whomever they want ..long live DIEBOLD (and its programmers)

... in Gahanna, Ohio, 4,258 voters supposedly cast an electronic ballot for George Bush while only 260 voted for John Kerry. While it is vaguely possible that over 94% of voters in the precinct supported George W. Bush, it is a hard number to believe considering that only 638 voters were counted at the polling center.
Should America Trust the Results of the Election?
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10500.shtml

And this one of many. Who knows who many were not caught.
 
Quote from vhehn:

condie might be a booksmart woman but she seems to be a lightweight in the street smarts department. doubt anybody would take her seriously as a presidential candidate.
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disagree. she would be unbeatable. even i would vote for her....
 
Quote from vhehn:

bill should run again. who would have thought that after bush even bill clinton looks good to a registered republican.
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actually, bill clinton is a republican with a lot of democratic sound bites anyway (the perfect democrat), but hilary is not. i think she's actually the worst of the democratic party (eeyuck!)

condi all the way!
 
Quote from ssternlight:

I was hoping for something a bit more responsive -- especially as I think the reasons are different.

For example:

I dislike Bush's policies on:

1. Environment: because he is killing us with his relaxation of the pollution regulations, not interested in conservation of energy or any other resource as far as I can tell, and refuses to acknowledge the obvious impact of global warming.

2. Economy: He has indebted the US more than all other President's combined.

3. Taxation: Policy is skewed to benefit the wealthy at expense of poor and middle class.

4. Foreign Policy: Engages in war's of choice -- and lies about the reasons for going into them. Does not attempt to keep allies on board. Seems to look for enemies and not friends.

5. Separation of Church and State: Sees no difference and thinks his religious beliefs should drive everyone's social rights.

6. Secrecy: No president has classified as much data nor stonewalled so much on data that should be available. No need to go into the illegal surveillance of Americans, Rendition, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, etc...

7. Excessive Cronyism: Hires people unsuitable for positons (FEMA, Supreme Court, etc...) as political favors. Backs them to the hilt even when they are clearly incompetent.

8. Social Policies: Prefers to offer tax breaks to wealthy rather than fix Medicare and Social Security.

9. FDA: Prefers to come to political/religous outcomes rather than scientific one's. Has an irrational fear of genetic research.


None of which is a comment on him personally -- although I have a list there as well but it's not really relevant.

Now if you have a similar list for the Clinton's I'd like to see it. And I am not trying to grind an axe here. They aren't on my list of favorite people either but I've never understood the raw anger that they seemed to have introduced into the average Republican.

And finally as a final note, I am registered independent.
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amen, ssternlight. i disagree on half your positions but i too would like to know why the visceral reaction since b.c. is essentially republican with a softer rhetoric.
 
Quote from princessa:

disagree. she would be unbeatable. even i would vote for her....
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LOL, you must be out of your mind. She is a black female who never married -surely the winning ticket in the conservative, religious, racist pro-family South. She is also one of the key architects of universally hated and despised Bush's policies, surely that will help her carry Massachusets and California.
 
Quote from Martin Gale:

Oh, boy. The powerful are too comfortable to notice the pain of the weak, and the weak lack power.

As for who will be the Dem [or Repub] candidate... What matters is not who does the voting but who does the nominating. And who does the nominating is who owns the political apparatus. And that ain't you, either. A system is democratic only to the extent that its citizens are equal. That includes equal access to power, which the majority of the unwashed masses of Americans don't have. That includes equal access to information, which we also don't have. What runs the world is not rights but privileges, which, again, most of us don't have. If voting could change the system, it would be illegal.
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amen, m.g.!!!!
 
Quote from RedManPlus:

Congrats. You just descibed the human condition. Life is not fair.

And the idea that "rich" people live "better" lives than "poor" people...
Is highly questionable if not altogether false.

Quality of life...
Stems largely from character, family, friends, health, work, and your spiritual growth...
None of which is dependent on wealth...
And most of which is within your power to improve on an ongoing basis.
Quality of life is 90% the right attitude.

But building character is hard work.
It's much, much easier to play the victim and manipulate everyone you encounter.

rm+

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you kinda missed the point there, red. we're not talking "the meaning of life" here, just politics. nobody's playing the victim, just saying that if we're purporting to be a democratic nation, then we're hypocrites, because real power belongs to the few and we are not equals in determining our collective fate.
 
Quote from dddooo:

LOL, you must be out of your mind. She is a black female who never married -surely the winning ticket in the conservative, religious, racist pro-family South. She is also one of the key architects of universally hated and despised Bush's policies, surely that will help her carry Massachusets and California.
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right! and those racist southerners just loooove hilary!!!!

lmao
 
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LOL, you must be out of your mind. She is a black female who never married -surely the winning ticket in the conservative, religious, racist pro-family South. She is also one of the key architects of universally hated and despised Bush's policies, surely that will help her carry Massachusets and California.
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Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. I'll make you another batch. :D
 
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