Who will be the Dem candidate?

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The Mormons have made no secret about the desire to take over the government (they don't quite phrase it that way). Look for plenty of cronyism and nepotism if this happens.

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I went to college in Salt Lake City. Its interesting that this is the only city in which the army base has guns facing TOWARDS the city. They have old cannons on display at the entrance to the local Army fort there. Its up on a hill, right next to the "U", with ordinance facing directly towards downtown. This was for a reason at one time (long ago). As you said, the Mormons made no secret of the fact that they did not want the US government there.

I found the whole thing rather humorous.

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They were discussed on CNBC about a month ago. They polled people with Hillary vs a number of different contenders, and she lost every one of them. She easily out polled among Dems only though for the nomination. I don't know who conducted the poll, so take it with a grain of salt. I agree with it though. She is one of those people you either like or hate. I don't think she has a chance in national election.
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I still don't understand why people "hate" her and judging from the fact that no one has been able to articulate anything clear cut I am coming to conclude it's just another attack thing.
 
hill and bill.........2 trustworthy guys..........who was hill's roomate in college........was her name something like burly or curly or ? lezzie or lizzie......i can' tremember.......
 
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I still don't understand why people "hate" her and judging from the fact that no one has been able to articulate anything clear cut I am coming to conclude it's just another attack thing.
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I don't "hate" her, but I have an extreme dislike for Hillary. Want to know why? Because if she gets in there, she'll try to shove her agenda down our throats even if no one wants it. It's her way or the highway...doesn't anyone remember the "Health Alliances" crap? She is evil, no doubt about it...and mean. I don't like that either. Many times I've thought that Hillary and Martha are the same person.

If Hillary gets the nomination maybe I'll vote for her anyway...then when the economy tanks and everything goes to hell, she'll get the blame.
 
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f she gets in there, she'll try to shove her agenda down our throats even if no one wants it
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LOL, that must explain why you voted for Bush.
 
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I don't "hate" her, but I have an extreme dislike for Hillary. Want to know why? Because if she gets in there, she'll try to shove her agenda down our throats even if no one wants it. It's her way or the highway...doesn't anyone remember the "Health Alliances" crap? She is evil, no doubt about it...and mean. I don't like that either. Many times I've thought that Hillary and Martha are the same person.

If Hillary gets the nomination maybe I'll vote for her anyway...then when the economy tanks and everything goes to hell, she'll get the blame.
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Well,

Every President tries to shove their agenda down the country's throat. I'd have to say the current one has excelled at it. So, I can understand that point. It's akin to saying, I don't believe in the things she stands for and don't want to see it enacted. Could you be more specific though?

And what do you mean by "evil?"

This is the kind of stuff I am trying to get a feel for.

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some points

1) i'm a republican, although I *did* vote for clinton the first time. i don't hate him. i know some repubs do

2) bill clinton is not a closet republican, or some such rubbish that several people have posted. bill clinton is a left moderate. for that that (erroneously) equate democrat with liberal, then he doesn't fit their mold of democrat. but democrat =/= liberal. bill - pro choice, pro death penalty, big on war on drugs, etc.

3) hillary, while i respect her hawkishness (she is WAY more hawkish than clinton, and i wouldn't be surprised that if she had been president on sept 11, she would have been way more hawkish than bush. seriousy - would make a terrible president. i could vote for clinton (bill), even as a republican. i think he is deeply flawed as an individual, but i agree with dick morris - he's a good president for domestic policy - horrid for foreign policy. hillary is not NEARLY as smart as bill, and i am talking street smarts/common sense as well. she is also the worst type of identity politix privileged guilty liberal that i just can't stand. she is big brother with a bra personified.

4) condi is brilliant, and has demonstrated leadership from a young age. she simply rocks. as much as i disagree with mccain on many issues, he and condi would be an awesome ticket

5) mitt romney would be a great candidate also, but i think the mormon factor could hurt him. of course, many said the same about kennedy and the catholic factor, so who knows?
 
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Well,

Every President tries to shove their agenda down the country's throat. I'd have to say the current one has excelled at it. So, I can understand that point. It's akin to saying, I don't believe in the things she stands for and don't want to see it enacted. Could you be more specific though?

And what do you mean by "evil?"

This is the kind of stuff I am trying to get a feel for.

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I agree about every president and their agenda.

Maybe evil was a bit strong, but I think Hillary has a LOT of pent up anger and does her best to put a mask on to hide it. Mostly, it's just an intuitive/feeling thing for me re my feelings toward her, but I also disagree with what she stands for. Aren't there any Statesmen left in this country? I'm sure there are, but they can't get elected.
 
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