Who says we are not a socialist country?

[Ricter]

"Real, true" socialism is also the economic system of most families. To each according to their needs, from each...

 

[futures_shark]

Quote from Ricter:

"Real, true" socialism is also the economic system of most families. To each according to their needs, from each...

WTF? Are you serious? Are you trying to make socialism sound warm & fuzzy?

If you willingly give something to some else by your own free choice then you receive benefits from that transaction.

That has nothing to do with socialism.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from futures_shark:

WTF? Are you serious? Are you trying to make socialism sound warm & fuzzy?

If you willingly give something to some else by your own free choice then you receive benefits from that transaction.

That has nothing to do with socialism.

That has everything to do with true socialism. Sorry it's not the demon you hoped for.

 

[resinate]

Quote from futures_shark:

WTF? Are you serious? Are you trying to make socialism sound warm & fuzzy?

If you willingly give something to some else by your own free choice then you receive benefits from that transaction.

That has nothing to do with socialism.

I agree. The warm fuzzy utopia theory is communism- remember, the state has withered so its all voluntary.... Socialism is another form of redistribution of wealth(government based instead of corporate control) supposedly on the path to communism.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from resinate:

I agree. The warm fuzzy utopia theory is communism- remember, the state has withered so its all voluntary.... Socialism is another form of redistribution of wealth(government based instead of corporate control) supposedly on the path to communism.

Res, stop it, you are giving me goose bumps!

 

[Ricter]

Quote from resinate:

.... Socialism is another form of redistribution of wealth...

Correct. And it is the method of wealth redistribution in the normal American family. I wasn't trying to be anything so complicated as "warm and fuzzy".

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from resinate:

Socialism is another form of redistribution of wealth(government based instead of corporate control) .

Res, those are fighting words for dddooo. He will not agree with you. Beware of his wrath. May God be with you.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Maverick74:

Res, those are fighting words for dddooo. He will not agree with you. Beware of his wrath. May God be with you.

I'm not so sure dddooo would disagree with that statement.

 

[TGregg]

Quote from Ricter:
"Real, true" socialism is also the economic system of most families. To each according to their needs, from each...

Quote from futures_shark:
WTF? Are you serious? Are you trying to make socialism sound warm & fuzzy?

If you willingly give something to some else by your own free choice then you receive benefits from that transaction.

That has nothing to do with socialism.

As much as I hate to agree with Ricter, he is correct. Most families do indeed function on some sort of socialist pivot. Examine for instance the farming family of old. The man and as many of the youngest as could farmed the land, while the women and assorted helpers did the rest of the chores. If one was ill, others pitched in to carry the load - it was socialism in the purest form.

It's a wonderful thing, make no mistake. One works when one can, and others care for one when one is unable to work. One person is extra-smart and makes enough to bring home a big turkey, nice!

For a family, or other small group, socialism works, and works well. Make no mistake. But what about larger groups? How happy are you that Joe Fat Phuck across the river is too large to do any work? Are you happy to support him?

And imagine that you work extra hard to acquire some rare skill, or even say you plain studied yer butt off - should you share your earnings with your lazy cousin Earnest who's drunk a corn silo of whiskey?

Do you understand that capitalism says that rewards go to those that earn them?

 

[Cesko]

Quote from dddooo:

Truly socialist countries and governments don't collect taxes, they don't need to as they simply OWN everything - that's the nature of true socialism. Governments not owning the means of production but collecting taxes to sustain their activities have absolutely nothing to do with socialism. Taxes existed in feudal societies in the medieval world - peasants and serfs paid taxes to the king, to the church, to the landlord, they paid taxes for the land, for the army, for marriages and death, for the air they breathed and for the food they ate. Paying taxes has nothing to do with becoming a socialist country.


I don't know about that but fortunately for you they don't ban for ignorance and stupidity.


Reading comprehension problems? I said exactly the opposite, I said that there was indeed real true socialism in the Soviet Union and other Eastern European countries, that this country has absolutely nothing to do with socialism and that equating taxation with socialism is absurd.

A tax is an involuntary fee paid by individuals or businesses to a state, or to functional equivalents of a state, including tribes, secessionist movements or revolutionary movements.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax

Please read the definition of tax. Going by that definition, we paid taxes. People in every freaking country with any sort of government on this Earth pay taxes.
What are you arguing about ,stupid vocabulary or concept? You suffer from the same problem like all lefties,confusing theory with real world.
How the hell all governments pay for itself? Please, please again, read the definition of taxes and you will know how.

P.S. By the way if you argue about words, government doesn't own "means of production in socialism" people do (IN THEORY). That's what any commie will tell you. It's a big time bullshit but you don't care about that.