Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

[tango29]

I think we know less about Covid than the scientists care to admit. As a result the loons at both extremes are having a field day with with conflicting advice.
I have 2 friends who are in good health, no outstanding conditions or health issues who have had tested positive. The first was out of commission for two weeks with what he described as the worst flu he has ever had. He has recovered from that, but has lasting ringing in the ears and memory issues that he didn't experience previously. He ended up going into have his phone reset as he couldn't remember his unlock code and still can't to this day. He also is going in for a check of his heart as he is having issues with a rapid heart, and weakness since his bout. He initially figured it was just part of the recovery, but he had it in March and is still experiencing the issues.
The other friend is still recovering and is on week 4. He feels mostly better, but after 2 hours of work ends up taking a 3 hour nap. He probably needed to go to the hospital early on as his oxygen levels got pretty low, but not his style. He also ended up dropping 20 lbs as nothing stayed down for the 1st week and had a hard time eating the next week or two. He wasn't overweight to begin with and now looks skinny. He runs a roofing business and is in pretty good shape, but this is kicking his butt.
On the other hand obviously the are a lot of people who don't experience any symptoms, and others who have the equivalent of a cold.

 

[Turveyd]

To the assholes who are saying: "I had it and it's no big deal". Yeh, sure, for YOU it was no big deal you self-centered JERK. But it is killing a lot of people and causing others a lot of suffering. Sure some people are totally asymptomatic, but they can still spread it to others who are much more vulnerable.

And what do you expect anyone to do about this, lock themselves in there houses for ever ??

Everybody dies, it's very few, don't waste everyones lives like currently, pretending to save people, because your not.

And the people at risk can take the Vaccine, no issues, but as the Treatment doesn't stop you getting or spreading Covid, there is no advantage to everyone on the planet taking it.

LOGIC, not emotion!!

 

[Turveyd]

I think we know less about Covid than the scientists care to admit. As a result the loons at both extremes are having a field day with with conflicting advice.
I have 2 friends who are in good health, no outstanding conditions or health issues who have had tested positive. The first was out of commission for two weeks with what he described as the worst flu he has ever had. He has recovered from that, but has lasting ringing in the ears and memory issues that he didn't experience previously. He ended up going into have his phone reset as he couldn't remember his unlock code and still can't to this day. He also is going in for a check of his heart as he is having issues with a rapid heart, and weakness since his bout. He initially figured it was just part of the recovery, but he had it in March and is still experiencing the issues.
The other friend is still recovering and is on week 4. He feels mostly better, but after 2 hours of work ends up taking a 3 hour nap. He probably needed to go to the hospital early on as his oxygen levels got pretty low, but not his style. He also ended up dropping 20 lbs as nothing stayed down for the 1st week and had a hard time eating the next week or two. He wasn't overweight to begin with and now looks skinny. He runs a roofing business and is in pretty good shape, but this is kicking his butt.
On the other hand obviously the are a lot of people who don't experience any symptoms, and others who have the equivalent of a cold.

Bumped into an Ex and her next door neighbor, either 42 or 48 died from it no previous known conditions, so out of everyone I know 1 death and only 1 who had it bad and still isn't perfect from March.

I know of 2 suicides, 1 over dose, 1 car crash death, 1 cancer death, 3 OAP death and got a mate dying of cancer currently to put above into context.

 

[Steve Alexander]

Wondering what the mind set is of people about the COVID 19 Vaccines.
Will you take it freely , be the first to get it when its available to the general population ?
Or will you have to be induced by the government make a $1,000 pandemic stimulus payment incumbent on COVID-19 vaccination. Or because your employer will mandate its required like FLU Shots are for Health Workers ?

I had a flu shot in 1969. Got the flu, and was sick in bed for a week. Haven't had a flu shot since, and haven't had the flu since. Not planning to get this one, either.

 

[tango29]

Sorry for the temporary double post it looked like the first didn't post here.

 

[zghorner]

Bumped into an Ex and her next door neighbor, either 42 or 48 died from it no previous known conditions, so out of everyone I know 1 death and only 1 who had it bad and still isn't perfect from March.

I know of 2 suicides, 1 over dose, 1 car crash death, 1 cancer death, 3 OAP death and got a mate dying of cancer currently to put above into context.

exactly. The media AND medical communities have everyone convinced that it is a neo bubonic plague.

Senator Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

 

[Turveyd]

exactly. The media AND medical communities have everyone convinced that it is a neo bubonic plague.

Senator Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

Yep, same here, Flu deaths have dropped off massively, remember it's died with Covid on the Cert or within 28days of a positive test, it's not of Covid, so hard to tell what's Flu or Covid, might test positive for Covid but 93% false positive rate so tricky.

Think Boris is talking currently, more lockdowns, mutated version 50% faster spreading, bla bla bla insert FEAR here, basically wasn't enough fear to push people that don't need a Treatment into taking the Treatment, so there putting the FEAR machine into over drive.

They never tell the context, if they did you'd realise yeah it sucks, but that's life, those other forgotten about and hidden deaths suck aswell.

1 cyclist aswell I've ridden with, brake failure big descent crashed into the bridge at the bottom and went over the wall, big drop not into water.

* just servicing my brake as front brake nearly on metal before I head out.

 

[Turveyd]

70% more transmissible, gets us to 100% faster, so 2months not 3months to 98%.

New Tier 4 totally screwed area ( 70% will ignore )

XMAS is cancelled, finally some good news.

The Science, which we just made up!!

Nice Distraction from BREXIT mind.

 

[tango29]

Bumped into an Ex and her next door neighbor, either 42 or 48 died from it no previous known conditions, so out of everyone I know 1 death and only 1 who had it bad and still isn't perfect from March.

I know of 2 suicides, 1 over dose, 1 car crash death, 1 cancer death, 3 OAP death and got a mate dying of cancer currently to put above into context.

So we should just say oh well, here's another way for people to die? As I wrote we don't know that much about this yet, but scientists keep throwing out something everytime they find or encounter it and then people from both extremes twist it to their point of view instead of evaluating what was said.
I'm not a shut everything down person. That is idiotic, but take precautions is common sense. Cancer patients usually have issues to deal with that changes the way they do things, and drug users/ alcoholics need to seek assistance and change the way they have been living, and in a lot of cases people around them have to adapt to help these people survive. It doesn't have to be locking away in your house and shutting down business.
In Covid a mask is a simple, even though imperfect way, to help those around you and yourself. Yes, it can get through the masks that we have for general public use in some situations, but if you keep some distance it is less likely to be an issue. Simple test is have someone spit in your face without the mask and then with the mask. Then go ahead and do it from 6 feet apart(obviously one of the random numbers thrown out by the scientific community) and see the difference of what comes through.
As far as hospital coding things to benefit the buisness, it probably does happen in some cases. Gee, how unusual a business committing a fraud, but on the whole that isn't what is occurring. I say this as I have a family working in the hospital arena and have questioned that exact same thing. I was given examples of how it works in their hospital and I bet a large majority are running an honest operation just the same way.

 

[tomorton]

I had a flu shot in 1969. Got the flu, and was sick in bed for a week. Haven't had a flu shot since, and haven't had the flu since. Not planning to get this one, either.

Its widely known that the first flu jab of your life often causes a flu-like reaction. After that, it usually doesn't.

I'm not having a flu jab this winter because it would be my first flu jab and I don't want to take the risk of being physically depleted if I am then going to come into contact with covid. For example when I turn up to get my flu jab. I get flu once every 3 years or so and its never serious. Will have it next year after I've had the covid jab.