Who plans to get the covid 19 VACCINE when it comes out

tomorton said:
I highly doubt the covid19 vaccines would have been released if not safe for the general population. These vaccines are not just "shots in the dark" if you'll pardon the expression. The medical/pharmaceutical world has been working on coronavirus vaccines since at least the time of the Sars and Mers epidemics. Covid19 is simply just another new strain of a well understood viral species.

In addition, covid19 was seen as such a significant new disease that the world's resources went immediately into overdrive to find a vaccine asap. This is a uniquely large and coordinated effort with too much oversight and and too many competing vaccine designs for some firm to produce "snake oil" in a hypo and send it out to the market to make a quick buck. However, I would die in a ditch before accepting a Russian vaccine but that's more to do with distrust of the Russian government than the development of vaccines in general.

Vaccines normally take years to get regulatory approval for general use but that's because of the constraints in medical trials on humans. A vaccine like this can only be trialled in an ongoing outbreak - pointless testing a malaria vaccine in the Arctic. Also there is always a difficulty in getting sufficient vaccine recipients and control subjects who don't get the vaccine. The response to covid19 has been to bring hundreds of thousands of subjects in contact with the trials, accelerating the entire testing process and strengthening its integrity.

Vaccines aren't unique in the sense that they are just another "medicine". Objections to the integrity of development of this vaccine must therefore lead to rejection of other western pharma therapies whose development processes are actually less well known. That just seems unsupportable. As I said above, on a specialist subject I listen to the specialists: when the majority of specialists say penicillin will help me, I take it.
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Can you provide proof that in 5years the vaccine won't mutate and kill millions if not billions of people, you keep asking for proof then ignoring so my turn.

You don't give a it's not a vaccine a preventative medication, to people that do not need it, especially a new rushed barely tested 1, unless your upto something.

You trust the powers that be to look after you, I trust them to look after themselves, the worlds in the shit it's over populated to be fair to them so not saying a Cull isn't needed, it is, but it's the lies I don't like and the fear mongering.


Remember all of the makers are protected if anything goes wrong, most of the makers have very shadey records and bad practices and have done a lot of damage, these people are not good people.
 
Turveyd said:
Can you provide proof that in 5years the vaccine won't mutate and kill millions if not billions of people, you keep asking for proof then ignoring so my turn.

You don't give a it's not a vaccine a preventative medication, to people that do not need it, especially a new rushed barely tested 1, unless your upto something.

You trust the powers that be to look after you, I trust them to look after themselves, the worlds in the shit it's over populated to be fair to them so not saying a Cull isn't needed, it is, but it's the lies I don't like and the fear mongering.


Remember all of the makers are protected if anything goes wrong, most of the makers have very shadey records and bad practices and have done a lot of damage, these people are not good people.
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This particular vaccine is not a virus and does not contain parts of the virus, it contains protein which binds the virus inside the body's cells. So its not a living organism as such, its inert.

Actually, vaccines are routinely given to people who do not have the infection in question. All the medical authorities have confirmed the vaccine in use has been thoroughly tested. Though I reserve my opinion on anything from a Russian lab....

I trust the powers that be will try to avoid being blamed for unnecessary deaths. We agree on this.

All companies can be said to have harmed people or the environment or both in the past. My concern is that they abide by current regulations, which all the regulators and medical authorities say they are (though again as for Russia.............. etc. etc.).
 
tomorton said:
This particular vaccine is not a virus and does not contain parts of the virus, it contains protein which binds the virus inside the body's cells. So its not a living organism as such, its inert.

Actually, vaccines are routinely given to people who do not have the infection in question. All the medical authorities have confirmed the vaccine in use has been thoroughly tested. Though I reserve my opinion on anything from a Russian lab....

I trust the powers that be will try to avoid being blamed for unnecessary deaths. We agree on this.

All companies can be said to have harmed people or the environment or both in the past. My concern is that they abide by current regulations, which all the regulators and medical authorities say they are (though again as for Russia.............. etc. etc.).
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But all Vaccines have been trialed on a small portion of the population for many years and quite a few found not to be safe and not put out to mass vaccination. No study can be done this quickly on Birth Defects, thalidomide anyone ??

This 1 is going straight into 7Billion people if they have there way ASAP, for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate ??

You know there trying to mix Russian Vaccine with UK's Oxford Vaccine to make it stronger ??

I presume you want this vaccine ?? Why ??

a) Your afraid it'll kill you!
b) You want it to get your old life with no restrictions back.


Me I've had Covid, was a nothing, don't know anyone it's killed, GF's mom 73 had it, was a nothing, I can't spread it and I know 40+ people who've had it, without an issue, so no vaccine needed unless your a shielder and at risk.

Logic dictates, don't risk rolling out to 7Billion people, simple as, your doing that out of FEAR, never act out of FEAR!!
 
Turveyd said:
But all Vaccines have been trialed on a small portion of the population for many years and quite a few found not to be safe and not put out to mass vaccination. No study can be done this quickly on Birth Defects, thalidomide anyone ??

This 1 is going straight into 7Billion people if they have there way ASAP, for a virus with a 99.8% survival rate ??

You know there trying to mix Russian Vaccine with UK's Oxford Vaccine to make it stronger ??

I presume you want this vaccine ?? Why ??

a) Your afraid it'll kill you!
b) You want it to get your old life with no restrictions back.


Me I've had Covid, was a nothing, don't know anyone it's killed, GF's mom 73 had it, was a nothing, I can't spread it and I know 40+ people who've had it, without an issue, so no vaccine needed unless your a shielder and at risk.

Logic dictates, don't risk rolling out to 7Billion people, simple as, your doing that out of FEAR, never act out of FEAR!!
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The amount of testing that has been done on this vaccine has made the regulators' job much easier so they were able to make a judgement much faster than in other cases. I can point out that the flu jab which is accepted by millions of vulnerable people every year is not the same vaccine every year, its a new vaccine specific to that year's flu strains. Although the flu vaccination is one of the most common and widely administered ever, it is impossible to do years of testing and observations every year between the last flu season and the next. Yet it is safe.

I can't wait to get covid-vaccinated.
 
I am under the impression that no-vax, anti lockdown, anti mask, trumpist and brexiters belong to the same group.
 
tomorton said:
The amount of testing that has been done on this vaccine has made the regulators' job much easier so they were able to make a judgement much faster than in other cases. I can point out that the flu jab which is accepted by millions of vulnerable people every year is not the same vaccine every year, its a new vaccine specific to that year's flu strains. Although the flu vaccination is one of the most common and widely administered ever, it is impossible to do years of testing and observations every year between the last flu season and the next. Yet it is safe.

I can't wait to get covid-vaccinated.
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But there all based on the same influenza virus so there pretty much the same, where as covid medication is new and 1 is even the first RNA based medication ever, definitely nothing to worry about there lol


Had it, loads of others have had it, nobody has died, only 1 had it badly , i know old people who've had it and wasn't a big deal, but feel free to buy into the feardemic and see how it goes, no point me having it, nobody has yet had it twice so until then my vaccine is better and safer, the old mk1 get it, don't die, get on with life cause life is too short to waste fannying around over nothing.

You still don't understand shielding works, Lockdowns don't so your opinion is worthless as it's based on FEAR from the 24/7 news cycle, hint they never talk about the 68mil uk or 325mil US that don't die!
 
Turveyd said:
You mean people who don't tremble with fear 24/7 over nothing?
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Confirming my theory?
I would use different words to describe the group, but as it has nothing to do with me, feel free to choose and identify.
 
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