Who is the voice of the Unborn?

[stu]

who speaks for the life in their womb? Does God not exist?

Apparently according to the 'Good Book', your God does not listen to the unborn and mere jealousy is reasonable cause for an abortion.

"The Lord said to Moses[..] if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife [..] then he is to take his wife to the priest [..] here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—
may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when the Lord makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries."​

Numbers 5

Do good and evil not exist?

You've already acted like a sanctimonious tw*t (non taken) in trying to excuse other Bible text that attempts to justify the murder of pregnant women, something which itself might seem a pretty damn evil thing for you to do.
Once again religious hypocrisy shows it has no bounds.

meanwhile in the real world, things are complicated. So perhaps the issue should really be about ensuring the procedure is safe, legal and whenever possible, by the pregnant women's choice, rare.

 

[RainMaker3000]

Apparently according to the 'Good Book', your God does not listen to the unborn and mere jealousy is reasonable cause for an abortion.

"The Lord said to Moses[..] if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife [..] then he is to take his wife to the priest [..] here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—
may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when the Lord makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries."​

Numbers 5



You've already acted like a sanctimonious tw*t (non taken) in trying to excuse other Bible text that attempts to justify the murder of pregnant women, something which itself might seem a pretty damn evil thing for you to do.
Once again religious hypocrisy shows it has no bounds.

meanwhile in the real world, things are complicated. So perhaps the issue should really be about ensuring the procedure is safe, legal and whenever possible, by the pregnant women's choice, rare.

Whoever spoke of religion? many lack understanding so they blame religion for their ignorance...so a man should tolerate adultery, and raise another man's seed? no wonder the world is ruled by the fear of death...
When I slaughter a cow for its flesh should I care what its calf thinks? It might seem evil from the calf's perspective, but I am a conscious man, and the animal was created to serve my need...

 

[stu]

Whoever spoke of religion?

You started the thread speaking of religion and continued to do so as well as trying to excuse obnoxious Biblical text.

so a man should tolerate adultery, and raise another man's seed? no wonder the world is ruled by the fear of death...

wtf.
The Bible 'teaches' that it is ok to cause a miscarriage whether or not a pregnant woman has a say in it, because the man is jealous by merely suspecting she may be adulterous.

And you're trying to justify that shit.

 

[RainMaker3000]

You started the thread speaking of religion and continued to do so as well as trying to excuse obnoxious Biblical text.


wtf.
The Bible 'teaches' that it is ok to cause a miscarriage whether or not a pregnant woman has a say in it, because the man is jealous by merely suspecting she may be adulterous.

And you're trying to justify that shit.

the cattle like to forage and fornicate at night, when daylight breaks, their owner expects to till the field and slaughter some for meat, should he care if the cattle cry injustice? you tell me, goyim? Forage and fornicate, while I expect to TAKE what the good LORD has given me as my birthright!

 

[stu]

Try any of that in reality and all you can expect to TAKE will be jail time...
that is unless you can pull a 'Roger Stone' with Trump

 

[RainMaker3000]

Try any of that in reality and all you can expect to TAKE will be jail time...
that is unless you can pull a 'Roger Stone' with Trump

you make me laugh, a good laugh, eat grass goyim, you 'll always be in the field grazing...

 

[stu]

Being that you're on Shutter Island dude, it's good you can laugh.

 

[RainMaker3000]

Being that you're on Shutter Island dude, it's good you can laugh.

you sound like an idiot at best, when I pillage your children, know that I am the lawgiver, and their father taught them to be like cattle...mock the JEW but his LAW will hold you to account!

 

[Bugenhagen]

It depends on when you say life begins.
For the pro-life it begins at conception.
For the pro-choice the answer becomes a little more gray.
1st trimester? 2nd trimester? Before the Baby takes it first breath? Now there’s some that feel after birth up to two days?

If our country is based on each person having the right to LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.....exactly when does a baby become a person?

For pro-choice the argument is when does suffering begin, not life.

The life thing is nonsense, life of course begins at conception and anyone who says otherwise is just momentarily snared in the deceptive fallacy of the far right. The fact that everyone is fine with switching off life support on absolute confirmation of high function brain death needs to be considered at some length by the far right political propagandist mouth pieces.

Nobody likes abortion except for a few loonies and idiots. The dilemma is the path of least suffering taking two lives into account, one side sees a weighting, the other.. rarely thinks at all about anything except this is their party platform.

 

[stu]

you sound like an idiot at best, when I pillage your children, know that I am the lawgiver, and their father taught them to be like cattle...mock the JEW but his LAW will hold you to account!

careful pal... you shouldn't make such threats - even online.