Who is really to blame for the war in Ukraine?

[Cuddles]

Real shame that nearly all the Russian tanks are old and stored in depots... and won't run. Most have not been maintained at all and had all the equipment of value stolen off of them and sold by the corrupt Russian military. Coupled with reality that Russia cannot replace the equipment; advance computer equipment, modern optical range finders, etc. are not available in Russia and they can't manufacture it. All Russia can do is hope they can repair enough of these tanks to at least get them running to the 1960's level of technology.

I guess this is why they also call vatniks by the epithet tankies.

no, vatniks don't go by the epithet tankies. That's reserved for leninist/maoist types, many of which are useful idiot pro-Russians.

 

[gwb-trading]

Biden is sending 31 tanks to Ukraine. So here's the score:

Russia has around 2000 tanks (at the front), 5000 more in reserve.
AND the fuel to run them,
AND the training to operate them,

AND mechanics to service them
AND infrastructure to get parts and do repairs
AND Ukraine has none of those.

This whole war is a disgusting joke, intended to destroy Ukraine (Western intent) solely to harm Russia.
If you really supported Ukraine, the people especially, you would call for negotiations before half of Ukraine's young men are in the fucking ground.

Stop pretending you give a shit about Ukraine or its people. You hate Russia because you have been told to by your corrupt leaders. I am anti-war and NATO is pushing a max pain war.
Ukraine is just a pawn.

You know that Saddam's Iraq had a lots of Soviet T-55, T62, T69, and T72 tanks. Hundreds upon hundreds of them. Dozens of mechanized divisions. At this point it is basically the same junk Putin is trying to use in Ukraine.

Tell us how it worked out for Iraq when they met a much smaller number of American M1A1 Abrams tanks in the Gulf War. A mere total of 23 M1A1s were damaged or destroyed during the first Gulf war. In the second Gulf war, "One achievement of the M1A1s was the destruction of seven T-72s in a point-blank skirmish (less than 50 yards (46 m)) near Mahmoudiyah, about 18 miles (29 km) south of Baghdad, with no U.S. losses."

If Russia's tanks are outdated junk, it will not help them much in an armor battle when they face modern heavy tanks. Ignoring that mere portable missile hits cause most Russia tanks to cook off in a spectacular fashion.

 

[Overnight]

You know that Saddam's Iraq had a lots of Soviet T-55, T62, T69, and T72 tanks. Hundreds upon hundreds of them. Dozens of mechanized divisions. At this point it is basically the same junk Putin is trying to use in Ukraine.

Tell us how it worked out for Iraq when they met a much smaller number of American M1A1 Abrams tanks in the Gulf War. A mere total of 23 M1A1s were damaged or destroyed during the first Gulf war. In the second Gulf war, "One achievement of the M1A1s was the destruction of seven T-72s in a point-blank skirmish (less than 50 yards (46 m)) near Mahmoudiyah, about 18 miles (29 km) south of Baghdad, with no U.S. losses."

If Russia's tanks are outdated junk, it will not help them much in an armor battle when they face modern heavy tanks. Ignoring that mere portable missile hits cause most Russia tanks to cook off in a spectacular fashion.


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Just fucking MOAB them all. Enough! We're spending billions and billions of bux to have the Ukrainians fight them with BS weapons, when they can all be MOAB! Fuck, this war sux because of the no-fly zone, because we are afraid Putin will push nuke button.

Maybe we should MOAB the damned Kremlin?

Better yet, let's send the Kremlin some ammonia prills soaked in oil, to help them fertilize their crops this spring... They can store it in their basement, so they are safe from Ukranian shellings. Whoopsie daisy?

 

[mervyn]

Lovely, let’s nuke each other, game over.

 

[easymon1]

 

[kashirin]

Like I said earlier, the worst thing that happened in the Slavic world to Russia was Poland joining in with the west. The quality of life improved drastically in the decade after Poland joined the EU in 2004. And all of the other former Soviet states see that and want that kind of prosperity for themselves.

Ukrainian don’t want to be aligned with broken down shitty ass Russia. Those days are over for Russia.

Cool, now at least I understand why so many young Polish are in UK and Ireland happy to work for minimum wage.
It's because they have excellent quality of life in Poland. LOL.

 

[Overnight]

Lovely, let’s nuke each other, game over.

Where were nukes mentioned? That's just conventional shit, like fertilizer.

 

[wildchild]

Just fucking MOAB them all. Enough! We're spending billions and billions of bux to have the Ukrainians fight them with BS weapons, when they can all be MOAB! Fuck, this war sux because of the no-fly zone, because we are afraid Putin will push nuke button.

Maybe we should MOAB the damned Kremlin?

Better yet, let's send the Kremlin some ammonia prills soaked in oil, to help them fertilize their crops this spring... They can store it in their basement, so they are safe from Ukranian shellings. Whoopsie daisy?

Yeah lets claim they have WMDs and that we are going to be welcomed with flowers. The Bush/Biden/Clinton/Obama regime change wars have done wonders for us.

Maybe we can even have a few arms dealers who are parading as US Ambassadors go out and get killed then we can claim it happened because of a Youtube video.

Its always the turds who never served in the military who are always the most anxious to send other people's children into harms way.


Here is a great video that sums up your brilliant idea. You can watch the thing because its pretty sweet or you can go to about the 5:30 mark and listen to the rest of the song because it pretty much sums up for thought process.

 

[UsualName]

Cool, now at least I understand why so many young Polish are in UK and Ireland happy to work for minimum wage.
It's because they have excellent quality of life in Poland. LOL.

Poland’s GDP increased 250% and individual wealth of the Polish people increased nearly 50% in the ten years post joining EU. That was coupled with increased investment in infrastructure and education.

Like I said breaking away from Russia is a quality of life decision.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/01/eu-poland-10-years-economic

 

[smallfil]

Yeah lets claim they have WMDs and that we are going to be welcomed with flowers. The Bush/Biden/Clinton/Obama regime change wars have done wonders for us.

Maybe we can even have a few arms dealers who are parading as US Ambassadors go out and get killed then we can claim it happened because of a Youtube video.

Its always the turds who never served in the military who are always the most anxious to send other people's children into harms way.


Here is a great video that sums up your brilliant idea. You can watch the thing because its pretty sweet or you can go to about the 5:30 mark and listen to the rest of the song because it pretty much sums up for thought process.

It is the war mongers who create all these problems and misery and endless wars the world over just to make monies. To be fair, we have them in both Democrat and Republican sides. That is why they hated President Donald Trump because of his peace thru strength. Russia probably, would not have invaded Ukraine if President Donald Trump was in charge. They would have found a peaceful resolution and saved countless lives.