Who is really to blame for the war in Ukraine?

kashirin said:
I wonder why ukrainians are then being caught on streets like wild animals and sent to army?

hm, strange more than being dead and independent of russia ukrainians want to be alive

but no worries, usa already made a choice for them - they must die
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In another classic example of Russian vatniks claiming that others do what Putin is about to do.

Soon it will be more difficult for draft age people to escape over the porous land borders of Russia. It will require more than the standard small bribe to the border agents.

Yep... Putin is preparing to lockdown the border to stop the men from escaping -- with his new "booking system" which requires you register for a timeslot to cross the border.

Russian lawmakers to consider booking system to cross land borders
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-booking-cross-border-by-car-tass-2023-01-24/
 
gwb-trading said:
In another classic example of Russian vatniks claiming that others do what Putin is about to do.

Soon it will be more difficult for draft age people to escape over the porous land borders of Russia. It will require more than the standard small bribe to the border agents.

Yep... Putin is preparing to lockdown the border to stop the men from escaping -- with his new "booking system" which requires you register for a timeslot to cross the border.

Russian lawmakers to consider booking system to cross land borders
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-booking-cross-border-by-car-tass-2023-01-24/
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This post could go in the "Russia and Ukraine" thread if you wanted to help stop the proliferation of Ukraine threads.
 
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just in case anyone did not notice - the russian self-destruction started about 20 years ago.

this absurd war is just the final chapter.
 
Tony Stark said:
US and Germany sending thier best tanks to Ukraine.Russia going to need order more of those mobile crematory vehicles.
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Russia using mobile crematoriums to hide embarrassing and shameful war crimes in turn being used to hide the embarrassment of losses from their own people would be a sweet irony honestly.
 
Biden is sending 31 tanks to Ukraine. So here's the score:

Russia has around 2000 tanks (at the front), 5000 more in reserve.
AND the fuel to run them,
AND the training to operate them,

AND mechanics to service them
AND infrastructure to get parts and do repairs
AND Ukraine has none of those.

This whole war is a disgusting joke, intended to destroy Ukraine (Western intent) solely to harm Russia.
If you really supported Ukraine, the people especially, you would call for negotiations before half of Ukraine's young men are in the fucking ground.

Stop pretending you give a shit about Ukraine or its people. You hate Russia because you have been told to by your corrupt leaders. I am anti-war and NATO is pushing a max pain war.
Ukraine is just a pawn.
 
misterkel said:
Biden is sending 31 tanks to Ukraine. So here's the score:

Russia has around 2000 tanks (at the front), 5000 more in reserve.
AND the fuel to run them,
AND the training to operate them,

AND mechanics to service them
AND infrastructure to get parts and do repairs
AND Ukraine has none of those.

This whole war is a disgusting joke, intended to destroy Ukraine (Western intent) solely to harm Russia.
If you really supported Ukraine, the people especially, you would call for negotiations before half of Ukraine's young men are in the fucking ground.

Stop pretending you give a shit about Ukraine or its people. You hate Russia because you have been told to by your corrupt leaders. I am anti-war and NATO is pushing a max pain war.
Ukraine is just a pawn.
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I don’t know who you think you’re fooling with this little kabuki theater you’re putting on. Russia has been invading its neighbors for decades. It’s what Russia does.

The problem with Russia is it is actually a shit hole of a country that wants to control its neighbors economics and politics but it has nothing to offer other than shit.

Like I said earlier, the worst thing that happened in the Slavic world to Russia was Poland joining in with the west. The quality of life improved drastically in the decade after Poland joined the EU in 2004. And all of the other former Soviet states see that and want that kind of prosperity for themselves.

Ukrainian don’t want to be aligned with broken down shitty ass Russia. Those days are over for Russia.
 
misterkel said:
Biden is sending 31 tanks to Ukraine. So here's the score:

Russia has around 2000 tanks (at the front), 5000 more in reserve.
AND the fuel to run them,
AND the training to operate them,

AND mechanics to service them
AND infrastructure to get parts and do repairs
AND Ukraine has none of those.

This whole war is a disgusting joke, intended to destroy Ukraine (Western intent) solely to harm Russia.
If you really supported Ukraine, the people especially, you would call for negotiations before half of Ukraine's young men are in the fucking ground.

Stop pretending you give a shit about Ukraine or its people. You hate Russia because you have been told to by your corrupt leaders. I am anti-war and NATO is pushing a max pain war.
Ukraine is just a pawn.
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Real shame that nearly all the Russian tanks are old and stored in depots... and won't run. Most have not been maintained at all and had all the equipment of value stolen off of them and sold by the corrupt Russian military. Coupled with reality that Russia cannot replace the equipment; advance computer equipment, modern optical range finders, etc. are not available in Russia and they can't manufacture it. All Russia can do is hope they can repair enough of these tanks to at least get them running to the 1960's level of technology.

I guess this is why they also call vatniks by the epithet tankies.
 
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