Who is down money since they started trading?

Quote from jonbig04:

one more thing: don't use the fact that your 18 as a crutch. There aren't any extra points for being young. If you are going to do something and succeed you have to be better than all the other 18 year olds and all the 35 and 65 year olds. Period. Your age doesn't matter, only what you do. Just some advice from somebody who's been there, and not that long ago.

yes but i started this year i have less than one year experience, there are millions of people with more experience than me. experience is key, even in these 6 months i have learned so much, i cannot imagine how much i will learn in the next 10+ years
 
Quote from staffpro:

yes but i started this year i have less than one year experience, there are millions of people with more experience than me. experience is key, even in these 6 months i have learned so much, i cannot imagine how much i will learn in the next 10+ years

Hope to see you in 10+ years time. A lot of people burn out and give up in a year or two. Remember, it is not so much what you will learn in 10 years as what you are going to keep re-learning
 
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yes but i started this year i have less than one year experience, there are millions of people with more experience than me. experience is key, even in these 6 months i have learned so much, i cannot imagine how much i will learn in the next 10+ years

staffpro,

Keep a journal. Document every trade. Learn what works and what doesn't from your winning and losing trades. Also, please take the advice given to you on the 100k thread regarding risk etc.

Good luck, you can do it.
 
You can absolutely do it. Just be the best.Period.
Not the best teenager, your age doesn't matter. You can do it whether you're 14 or 55 if you have the will.
 
Quote from MandelbrotSet:

The younger age gives you the time that you need to work through the difficult spots, develop your edge, and become a proficient trader.

I don't expect you to agree with me since you are 20 years old and know everything, but this is true.

:D

Funny.

Goodluck kid! Trading is difficult and frustrating, keep your focus and be diligent in your studying.


I'm down this year, but haven't traded much. 53% last year
 
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Oh I'm sorry "Nazzdack Plizaya". We cant call be as cool as you and know how to "play" the in vogue techy nasdaq...

Just showing him how percents are arbitrary. Trading 1 contract my account is up almost 100% in the last 7 of my trading days. 100% on $500 that is. (check my journal) see how pointless that is? Or maybe you could PM him and show him how you lose money "playing the wicked cool nazzdack"

once again a thread on ET has turned into a "my dick is bigger than yours" contest.

lol
 
Quote from staffpro:

once again a thread on ET has turned into a "my dick is bigger than yours" contest.

lol


lol that's what its for. If one wanted to learn about trading..well thats another place.
 
Quote from jonbig04:

lol that's what its for. If one wanted to learn about trading..well thats another place.
My apologies Mr. BSD.

I didn't realize that I was arguing with a paper trader who can't tell an uptrend from a downtrend, doesn't have a system in place, can't get himself to trade even on BIG TREND DAYS (not that you would know what they look like), and doesn't even know how to calculate commissions correctly.

jonlittle04's journal :p

LOL, you really stepped in shit today, now didn't you?

I don't know what you're even doing on this thread (LOL), but since you're pretty much talking out your ass, it's only appropriate that you should be on the receiving end of one of your own comments ... here you go.

Quote from jonbig04:

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

LOL this place. :D :D :D

P.S. NasdaqPlayer, ggoyal, staffpro and anyone else with a "lick of common sense" ... please ignore this troll. :eek:
 
Quote from NasdaqPlayer:

I dont give a shit if he made 5% on 100 dollars, you could just not post a retarted comment. Im sorry your too good for beginners. Dont remember ET stating theres a minimum profitability req. to post. I just dont like pricks like you, that why I had to comment. The guy didnt say "you dumb bastard i just made 15%!!!! hahahaha fuck you losers!!!" lol but for some reason unknown to all of us, your dumbass brain saw it as that. Shit look at your name you had to put Big in it so we should all run and hide right? Big bitch is what it should say. So all I am saying is SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH or post something productive.


"retarted?" haha. ok. For some reason your post reminds me of when I read the comments on youtube videos. Maybe its the 8th grade level writing. As for my name, yea I could have put it to make you "run and hide", or my first name could be Jon and my last name could be "Big" or some variation of the word Big...which is actually the case. So basically my name screen name is just a shortened version of my real name with 04 being the year I created it. Wow how ostentatious of me..are you scared yet?

As for my comments, yea, I was being a prick. Big deal. As for the reasons "unknown to you", that's because of 2 reasons: 1 you're an idiot who can't see anything beyond the obvious, and 2 you've never been in the position he is in right now. I will explain it in small words for you, ok "player"? He's proud of himself for venturing into a field that is pretty much unknown to all his peers. And he should be. He knows by now most traders fail and the odds are stacked against him even more being so young. So he's out to prove something. Not just to us and other people, but to himself. We all do that, I'm not picking on him. In trading you are defined by your profit. He probably knows what these hedgies are making in returns and wonders if one day he could do the same. So he starts trading and relatively quickly puts up a 15% return. 15%?! Hedgies only average what around 20%? Automatically he makes the connection between his ability to generate double digit returns and professional managers averaging the same returns. So it looks something like this "18 year old prodigy puts up double digit returns in a matter of weeks". When the fact is that, like I said, percent of a couple thousand is a much different ball game that percents of a couple hundred million.

What he was doing when he posted that is something we all do, especially us young ones. He was searching for some person to come out and say "Holy shit, you are doing awesome, I wish I could have done that when I was your age". He may or may not deny it, but that's the reaction he was looking for. Otherwise he probably wouldn't have posted at all, or posted something like "I'm up $2,000 so far", which sounds much less cool and is much less likely to evoke the response I'm sure he was looking for.

He may or may not have meant to do that, but we young ones are all searching for a little validity. The thing is we don't get it. We won't get until we start actually doing something worth while, putting up great results. I was bursting his bubble because the quicker he learns that, the quicker he will progress I think.

ok douchbag? It goes a little beyond me "picking on the new guy". I was serving his best interests, you were just being some guy running his mouth.


I want to make clear again, I'm not picking on him I DO THE SAME THING, but its just not in our best interests.
 
Quote from MandelbrotSet:

My apologies Mr. BSD.

I didn't realize that I was arguing with a paper trader who can't tell an uptrend from a downtrend, doesn't have a system in place, can't get himself to trade even on BIG TREND DAYS (not that you would know what they look like), and doesn't even know how to calculate commissions correctly.

jonlittle04's journal :p

LOL, you really stepped in shit today, now didn't you?

I don't know what you're even doing on this thread (LOL), but since you're pretty much talking out your ass, it's only appropriate that you should be on the receiving end of one of your own comments ... here you go.



LOL this place. :D :D :D

P.S. NasdaqPlayer, ggoyal, staffpro and anyone else with a "lick of common sense" ... please ignore this troll. :eek:


lol well placed jabs, I have to admit. Geeze I make one asshole comment....i dont remember anyone defending me from assholes like the place has turned me into....

by the way, you and I know I could retort, but Ill give you this one haha
 
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