I don't know how you guys see it, but it's pretty clear that if Obama wins America's screwed
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Nope - he has already flip flopped twice on his 16 month pledge. You Netroots have been had.
You are such a sucker with your "hope". The Democrat Party has been playing you Netroots like fiddles. Obama and Clinton never had any intention of being the ones to surrender Iraq. The plan was to get the troops out before Bush left office so they could blame him for the ensuing chaos and millions of deaths, as happened with Viet Nam. Now that it is evident to both the Obama and Clinton camps that if either become president they will be stuck with troops in Iraq. They have flip flopped because neither want to be seen as the president that surrendered Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran.Quote from insider trading:
Ive lost count how many times Hilary and mad man McCain has flip flopped on issues
At least with Obama there is a hope and a chance he will end the Iraq war and is least likely to start a new one
With McCain i know the war will continue and with his aggressive foreign policy stance and aggressive threats and statements he has made towards Russia,china,Korea and Iran there is a very good chance their will be new wars and a military draft
Quote from Gord:
You are such a sucker with your "hope". The Democrat Party has been playing you Netroots like fiddles. Obama and Clinton never had any intention of being the ones to surrender Iraq. The plan was to get the troops out before Bush left office so they could blame him for the ensuing chaos and millions of deaths, as happened with Viet Nam. Now that it is evident to both the Obama and Clinton camps that if either become president they will be stuck with troops in Iraq. They have flip flopped because neither want to be seen as the president that surrendered Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran.
Nice dodge - like a typical liberal you run from the topic being discussed and throw up a load of straw men. The Democrats have made getting out of Iraq the single most important issue for the past two years, and your dodging and weaving doesn't change the fact that you have been completely suckered by them on Iraq.Quote from insider trading:
Well its bush and the republicans that got the US into this war in the first place.why did he start the war ?oh yeah for WMD'S
of the final 3 Obama was the only one against it from the start
Its also a Republican oil man that has gas at 4.00 a gal,a almost worthless dollar,hundreds of billions of tax dollars going to haliburten etc,the biggest terrorist attack in history on the oil mans watch while he was on vacation,etc,etc
Obama will be the next president,you might want to start accepting that fact

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I don't know how you guys see it, but it's pretty clear that if Obama wins America's screwed