Who else is sick of food prices being manipulated?

Quote from Martinghoul:

I'm all confused...

Aren't we all traders here? As traders, aren't we supposed to love free unfettered mkts which are the true engines of capitalism? Aren't we constantly clamoring for less govt intervention and regulation in mkts? Or does the above apply to everything but foodstuffs? Moreover, who's gonna define a given mkt participant as a "speculator" and how?

I've heard this rhetoric for years now. In theory, yes indeed, as traders we should fight for free, unfettered markets, but the reality is far different. Instead, we have a financial system essentially predicated on moral hazard, implied government bailouts and other such de-facto stop gap measures that render the concept of free markets a fantasy.
 
What’s the definition of inflation again – oh yeah

Too few products being chased by too much money

Result prices rise



Problem is – John and Jane Q public are not the ones with the money….

RN
 
Quote from intradaybill:

Well, answer your question. Some covert Marxists here they have never traded a single share in their life but their goal is to infiltrate and try to pass their idiotic views to others. It is called propaganda, good old propaganda that slowly errodes the public moral for free markets. This is how they work. But their statements defy common sense. If physical cocoa is in abundance, why should the price go up because some speculators decided to buy futures? If they are wrong, they will be punished hard by the market and price will plunge. Other things go on and these Marxist blame speculators who are essential for stability in the markets.

In reality, stability in the markets rests on the existence of a good number of speculators. By attacking speculators, Marxists want to attack the heart of the system and turn it unstable. They will not succeed because they defy common sense. Marxism is the evil of society.

u r f loser u know that... if traders want to buy cocoa or any other commodity they should also be able to take physical delivery of that commodity.. just sitting in some high rise building and fu ing bidding on futures is worse then marxism...

i say tax commodity futures upto 60 % or take physical delivery of the product...
 
Quote from denner:
I've heard this rhetoric for years now. In theory, yes indeed, as traders we should fight for free, unfettered markets, but the reality is far different. Instead, we have a financial system essentially predicated on moral hazard, implied government bailouts and other such de-facto stop gap measures that render the concept of free markets a fantasy.
Rightie-o... And your proposed solution to this sad state of affairs is to introduce more govt meddling? Is this correct?
 
Aren't we all traders here?

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LOL as I fall on the floor, laughing even harder.:D

Yea, eveyone on ET is a trader, has traded for a living or is involved in the Financial Markets one way or another..yea

On a serious note....Pile pull your head outa your arse. Most on ET are clowns, wana be professors, cubical junkies-office space style, a lot of Socialist for what ever reason, and students who seek some knowledge. But there are also your freeloaders who are at home living off tax money as they watch TV and post.

2% are the real deal. But that 2% can help and you can learn from them.
 
Quote from risktaker:

That's bullshit.

When some greedy dipshit buys $1billion of GE or MSFT, there's very few consequences other than perhaps liquidity when exiting the trade.

If the same fool decides to buy $1 billion of the rice or wheat ETF, somebody, somewhere will die of hunger.

What if it were you or your kid???

Greedy/stupid assholes like you are fucking up the markets.

Why wouldn't the government buy wheat instead of treasuries with QE2 and give it away to poor instead of sponsoring wall street?
they don't do that so who is the evil? I would say government not speculators

they want those prices higher! they want inflation
 
Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

Aren't we all traders here?

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LOL as I fall on the floor, laughing even harder.:D

Yea, eveyone on ET is a trader, has traded for a living or is involved in the Financial Markets one way or another..yea

On a serious note....Pile pull your head outa your arse. Most on ET are clowns, wana be professors, cubical junkies-office space style, a lot of Socialist for what ever reason, and students who seek some knowledge. But there are also your freeloaders who are at home living off tax money as they watch TV and post.

2% are the real deal. But that 2% can help and you can learn from them.
I don't suppose you're familiar with such concepts as "rhetorical question" and "sarcasm"?
 
Quote from gobar:

u r f loser u know that... if traders want to buy cocoa or any other commodity they should also be able to take physical delivery of that commodity.. just sitting in some high rise building and fu ing bidding on futures is worse then marxism...

i say tax commodity futures upto 60 % or take physical delivery of the product...

You are worse than Marxist. You are a fool. You do not know how markets work. You have no idea, you are not educated, yet you want to call policies that affect billions.

You idiot, unless there is a speculator who is willing to take the risk, commercials cannot hedge. If you tax speculators or require that they take delivery there will be no more hedging opportunities in the markets and prices will skyrocket because of fear. But you are a hopeless idiot, with no education, no understanding of the markets, yet you have big idea about your stupid small brain that you know everything, when the truth is you are a sca**ug, a sh**head.

Edit: hey, sc**bug, read the following hedging example and tell me you sh**head, how could the farmer sell his contracts to hedge his sales should buyer speculators are not around to take the long side because they are required to get delivery or pay 60%. read you sh**head

http://www.usafutures.com/hedging.htm
 
It's very easy to tell from threads like this who the real winners are in life.

It's also easy to see who are the 25 y/o, unemployed losers that sit in their parents basement and call themselves day traders, but in all actuality can't find a job so they think everything is "rigged".

Nobody complains when long side speculators are crushed as price plummet. I wonder how many greedy long-side speculators got their ass handed to them in natural gas.

Did any of you conspiracy theorists ever think that rising food prices might have something to do with an exploding world population, or a rising standard of living throughout Asia?

Here's a fact for you..... Far fewer people die from starvation today, than say 30 years ago, despite the fact that the world population is significantly bigger.
 
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