Who done it?

[Tsing Tao]

Hey, you survived Ian.

I did, my friend! I hope you aren't disappointed.

 

[ids]

Either US or the green lobby is behind this action. It is idiotic to think that Russia is bombing itself but the press is pressing this idiocy hard.

 

[Cuddles]

Agreed, Biden called it. Considering the sanctions Russia is under it's ludicrous to think they bombed the pipeline to get out of financial penalties. The US, or more likely one of their many lackeys, did this. All "evidence" to the contrary is being provided or filtered by the US.

Ridiculous. Biden's always been against Nordstream 2 (as many in nat. defense). Anyone w/any familiarity about the project knows what he meant, that the agreement would be dead and the US would push the EU to end it.

 

[Ricter]

Ridiculous. Biden's always been against Nordstream 2 (as many in nat. defense). Anyone w/any familiarity about the project knows what he meant, that the agreement would be dead and the US would push the EU to end it.

Ridiculous, based on its history, to believe the US would not also consider using extra-legal means to kill the deal.

 

[Ricter]

I did, my friend! I hope you aren't disappointed.

Hehe, not at all.

Do you have a big mess to clean up, at home and at work?

 

[Cuddles]

Ridiculous, based on its history, to believe the US would not also consider using extra-legal means to kill the deal.

except the deal was dead post invasion already so there was no need to double tap it.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Hehe, not at all.

Do you have a big mess to clean up, at home and at work?

Oh yeah, was a total mess of debris and detritus. Work was relatively unaffected, which was bizarre because the office was in Tampa evac zone A, and our house was far enough outside the city where it shouldn't have been an issue. Of course Ian had different plans and turned hard right and went into the state, so home was much closer to the storm and the office went unscathed.

Bah!

 

[Ricter]

except the deal was dead post invasion already so there was no need to double tap it.

Germany could very well reconsider, the deal's not dead dead unless the pipeline no longer exists. Not so much they would reconsider their over-reliance on Russian methane, that they acknowledge, but the fact that with an eventual end to hostilities, some amount of reduced purchasing of relatively low cost Russian methane could and likely would resume. With the US looking to expand LNG exports, it is not at all a zero percent chance the US had something to do with disabling the pipeline.

I don't know for sure, and neither do you.

 

[gwb-trading]

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Germany could very well reconsider, the deal's not dead dead unless the pipeline no longer exists. Not so much they would reconsider their over-reliance on Russian methane, that they acknowledge, but the fact that with an eventual end to hostilities, some amount of reduced purchasing of relatively low cost Russian methane could and likely would resume. With the US looking to expand LNG exports, it is not at all a zero percent chance the US had something to do with disabling the pipeline.

I don't know for sure, and neither do you.

TheMickey in the other thread posted a good summary article demonstrating Russia destroyed the pipelines -- even outlining the units involved in the destruction.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/russia-ukraine.364278/page-807#post-5690465

 

[Cuddles]

Germany could very well reconsider, the deal's not dead dead unless the pipeline no longer exists. Not so much they would reconsider their over-reliance on Russian methane, that they acknowledge, but the fact that with an eventual end to hostilities, some amount of reduced purchasing of relatively low cost Russian methane could and likely would resume. With the US looking to expand LNG exports, it is not at all a zero percent chance the US had something to do with disabling the pipeline.

I don't know for sure, and neither do you.

What is there to know? We all expected NG gas to resume at the end of hostilities if Russia packed and went home or once Putin was hanging by the rafters and if EU felt charitable enough. The "US" is not "looking to expand LNG exports" by blowing up pipelines, that's just conspiracy conjecture. LNG companies are looking to expand LNG exports. LNG companies did not provoke a Russian invasion to boost their exports, LNG companies are seeing record profits and an increase in exports because of the Russian invasion resulting in outrage and sanctions.

FWIW: The US has been warning EU exactly against this scenario because we ourselves are in this scenario, aligned and our nat. sec. reliant on autocratic regimes.