WHO bullshits about the origins of the Covid virus

Pekelo

Pekelo

So they came out today saying the Wuhan lab is innoncent and extremely unlikely to be the origin of the virus. Nice to know.

Counter argument:

"The WHO also investigated the 1977 Russian Flu, and concluded that

Laboratory contamination can be excluded because the laboratories concerned either had never kept H1N1 virus or had not worked with it for a long time.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2395678/pdf/bullwho00443-0095.pdf

But later studies showed that the virus was near-identical to a strain from 1950, without the expected mutations that should have occurred if the virus had been circulating undetected in a human or animal host for 20-30 years. Back before lab escapes were a polarizing political topic, the scientific consensus was sufficiently in favor of a lab origin that the NEJM--which has the highest impact factor of any medical journal--casually wrote:

The reemergence was probably an accidental release from a laboratory source in the setting of waning population immunity to H1 and N1 antigens

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra0904322

So it's funny to see people claiming there's no precedent for a lab accident to start a pandemic. Not only is there a likely precedent for that, but there's also a precedent for the WHO to exclude the possibility at the time."

"On top of that we already know that WHO isn't making adequate assessments as they have said that there was no evidence the virus was spreading before December 2019. We have concrete evidence that people were being diagnosed prior to that. There are US satellite images showing that hospital capacity was increasing from late Summer in Wuhan.

This is literally a slap in the face to an independent investigation its insane.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52975934"
 
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So they came out today saying the Wuhan lab is innoncent and extremely unlikely to be the origin of the virus. Nice to know.
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I thought everyone knew by now COVID-19 came to China from imported salmon.:)
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1191462.shtml
Beijing supermarkets stop selling salmon after wholesalers test positive for coronavirus
By Liu Caiyu Source:Global Times Published: 2020/6/13 15:03:28



Major supermarkets in Beijing including Carrefour and Wumart stopped selling salmon on Saturday after the cutting boards of wholesalers in Beijing’s Xinfadi Market detected the novel coronavirus, sparking concern that salmon could be contaminated with the deadly virus, despite virologists saying that the coronavirus can’t be transmitted from fish to humans.

When Global Times reporters visited supermarkets in the capital city on Saturday, they found no salmon for sale and many seafood stalls were closed. Local customers appeared hesitant to buy salmon, meat and other seafood.

In the seafood section of a branch of Alibaba’s Hema Fresh supermarket in Chaoyang district, the Global Times found the number of customers appears smaller and no salmon was seen for sale.

A worker at another branch of Hema Fresh near Shilipu area in Chaoyang told the Global Time that their salmon wasn’t supplied by the Xinfadi market and customers could still order the fish through their online app.

Salmons were also available at a Walmart in Beijing early Saturday but staff from the food and drug administration in Shijingshan district had come to the supermarket early in the morning to register the production batch of salmon and meat.

Many shoppers asked supermarket workers about the origin and safety of salmon and meats, the Global Times found.

With heightened concerns over the safety of salmon, a number of Beijing residents recalled recently eating salmon.

“I just had salmon at a sushi restaurant,” said Fan Jingli, a Beijing local. She said she is considering having a nucleic acid test done to rule out the possibility of contracting coronavirus after eating salmon.

Many sushi restaurants in Beijing said their businesses have been affected and they have removed salmon from their menus.

The Chaoshifa Market in Beijing’s Haidian district previously said it had stopped selling salmons. Eighty percent of its branches sold salmon imported from Norway. Chaoshifa Market, a state-owned enterprise in Haidian, has 52 branches in the city.

China imports about 80,000 tons of chilled and frozen salmon each year. Chile, Norway, Faroe Islands, Australia, Canada are the main sources of salmon imports, and the import volume of salmon is increasing year by year, according to news site Jiemian.com.

On Friday, the novel coronavirus was detected on a chopping board used by a seller of imported salmon at Xinfadi market. It is not yet known how the chopping board was exposed to the novel coronavirus.

Lin Li, chief scientist of a team that monitors aquatic disease and control in Guangdong Province, told the Global Times it’s not possible for live salmon to be contaminated with the virus given it lives in the ocean, neither can frozen salmon be a source of the novel coronavirus which can only exist in active cells.

It may be possible for salmon to be contaminated by virus-contaminated water during processing, transportation or packaging, Lin said.

The novel coronavirus is found in mammals, not in fishes, according to a paper published on Asian Fisheries Science in April.

The novel coronavirus mainly affects the upper and lower respiratory tract, and its pathological effects are mainly concentrated in the lungs. Except for a few varieties air-breathing fish, fish have gills not lungs, so they can’t be infected with the virus, the report said.

Salmon and other seafood can’t be the hosts of the novel coronavirus and so cannot be infected with the virus. There are no shared diseases that can be spread from fish to humans, an unnamed virologist was quoted by news site yicai.com on Saturday.

Beyond mammals, the novel coronavirus can hardly infect fish, birds, and reptiles, states another report by researchers from University College London that was published on bioRxiv preprint platform in May titled “SARS-CoV-2 spike protein predicted to form stable complexes with host receptor protein orthologues from mammals, but not fish, birds or reptiles.”

As the cause of the salmon cutting-board contamination remains unknown, experts are advising people not to eat raw salmon for the time being.

Major supermarket chains in Beijing mainly rely on direct procurement, so the supply of vegetables, fruits, meat, rice, flour, grain and oil will remain stable, according to Beijing Youth Daily.
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So WHO is full of shit. Who? Yes, WHO. Ah, what? WHO. Who? Correct. Makes about as much sense as the organization itself. Idiots. Strike that. They're making easy money pretending to care. Genius.
 
Reddit quote:

"To your first point I don't think people believe it was engineered, just that it was being studied there and was released through poor protocols. Even the idea of poorly disposing of testing animals could be possible and shouldn't be dismissed.

Is it not possible that they hadn't sequenced the virus before it was incorrectly disposed of? If that happened a year to doctor records is fine.

Not that I think he is part of a conspiracy but what would you say to the following:

  • His team has said there is no evidence that the Virus was in Wuhan before December 2019. US satellite images and internet tracking show that Hospitals were increasing in capacity drastically starting October 2019 in Wuhan and that internet searches for COVID-19 related symptoms spiked around the same time
  • China has been pushing the frozen meat theory with no evidence, but WHO says it is a credible theory with no evidence why is that different?
  • WHO is now moving its investigation to South East Asia and has said in their press conference it didn't start in Wuhan, why did no other country in South East Asia experience a similar outbreak except Wuhan?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252FCoronavirus%252Fcomments%252Flgomke%252F
 
ph1l said:
The link works for me, and I copied the article in the quote for the benefit of those blocked by the CCP.;)
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Thanks, just noticed it opens fine from my mobile, the Global Times is an official part of the chinese propaganda machine btw, so not blocked in China ( from memory, I live in Europe now)
 
So, of all the 1000's of wet markets in China, the coronavirus just happens to show up at one in the only city in China to have a BL4 lab.
 
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