Who are some LEGIT Retails that "made it"?

Here are few legit retail traders who made it and also teach:

Oliver Kell is legit teacher. I went through his master class and he’s very good swing/position trader and extremely humble. He still sends me his set-ups and stocks he’s watching, and unlike Kris Qullamaggie, Oliver is on top of things and making money regardless of the market conditions.

Randy Opper (protégé of Zanger) is very good technical trader, and legit teacher.

Minervini is also legit, but he’s does not seem very technical, and his breakouts are very dependent on market conditions. But he’s the real deal, I’m sure that he’s able to adapt and make money in any market conditions (unlike Qullamaggie who could not cope with the changed market last year).

Robert Miner is also legit, humble, and trades very differently than the guys mentioned above.

About ten years ago I met a guy at forex factory, he had very high IQ and very analytical mind, and emotionally rock solid. He came up with totally different way of reading supply/demand, order flow and pure PA that I’ve never seen before (none of the Sam Seiden or Al Brooks regurgitated stuff).

He eventually began to run a small private live trading room where everyone was trading the new (unusual) pure PA which he discovered, and we were scalping EU and UJ on M1, and momentum trading other pairs mainly on M30, H1.

The number of R-multiples he was pulling out of the market each day was mind-blowing. I would not believe it if I would have not seen him trading live day after day. He apparently started out with 10K and turned it into 100K within a year, and then he went full-time trading and apparently ended up with 3.5MM within few years.

Are those figures true? I don’t know, and it didn’t matter to me because he was trading live real-time with us, fully transparent, and nobody was able to outtrade him. He did say that when he was building up his capital that he’d sometimes risk upto 3% on certain trades, which when combined with the high expectancy and trade frequency makes those figure somewhat believable.

He was very humble, he never bragged about his success, he only mentioned those figures because few room members kept on asking him. The trading results from his real-time, fully transparent live trading were legit, and that’s all that mattered.

He took hiatus from retail trading and went to trade for a prop firm in London, then he returned to trading from home and this time focused on HTFs so he could enjoy his family and money. Then he unfortunately suddenly passed away during covid, he was only 40 years old. His death really shook me, and I lost interest in trading for a while.I recently became disabled, and these two experiences made me realise that it really doesn’t matter how much money one makes, that it is just a game.

The few examples above are proof that there are genuine (retail) trading teachers/mentors who are transparent and make consistent triple digit returns even in position trading, and from my experience, I believe that the right mentor can take the trader to the next level.

Obviously, unfortunately the reality is that most of the trading “educators” are usually failed traders and they just know how to talk and market themselves without any track record.

Ultimately, it does not really matter because one has to become hard working independent thinker, the silver bullet does not exist. The one-size-fits-all does not work in trading.

Those of you who aspire to become a professional traders, you owe it to yourself to bust your ass until your dreams become a reality. Never settle for less than your absolute best.
They are all pretty similar.

Kell will Trade the Q's though, if not enough Stocks setting up. I'd recommend Kell's basic Price Cycle for any bum long term Index Trader.

Kell seems more qualified, but Quallamaggie seems to have out performed Kell over the last decade.

If they're telling the truth, they all deserve our Respect - O'Neill, Minervini, Ryan X 2, Zanger, Quallamaggie etc.
 
After a quick look, this guy just has shit all over his charts and punts basically. He doesn't mention anything about pricing options, using models, finding mispricings, arbs, etc.


He rode TSLA up with LEAPS. He's legit but it was basically AON.
 
There are two kinds of people, those who hit the lottery of life and want to tell everyone else about it ... and those who keep it to themselves.
 
Reason I ask is that it would be the first time I ever heard of someone making consistent large returns day trading index futures using retail TA, so I’m wondering if the guy blew out or what happened.

Another guy I spoke with back in 2010 said he funded a 15K account and tripled it in 6 months day trading ES. Then he withdrew half and tripled that the next 6 months.

My impression was that he was profitable and honest and I have no reason to not believe him as he wasn't selling anything or trying to convince me of anything. He did seem to use retail TA, but I could tell he was different than many of the posters here in terms of mindset and attitude towards trading. Key words being extremely professional and serious about his trading.

He left ET rather quickly and called it a laughing stock of the internet and warned me to not get consumed by the negativity. LOL.
 
Here are few legit retail traders who made it and also teach:

Oliver Kell is legit teacher. I went through his master class and he’s very good swing/position trader and extremely humble. He still sends me his set-ups and stocks he’s watching, and unlike Kris Qullamaggie, Oliver is on top of things and making money regardless of the market conditions.

Randy Opper (protégé of Zanger) is very good technical trader, and legit teacher.

Minervini is also legit, but he’s does not seem very technical, and his breakouts are very dependent on market conditions. But he’s the real deal, I’m sure that he’s able to adapt and make money in any market conditions (unlike Qullamaggie who could not cope with the changed market last year).

Robert Miner is also legit, humble, and trades very differently than the guys mentioned above.

About ten years ago I met a guy at forex factory, he had very high IQ and very analytical mind, and emotionally rock solid. He came up with totally different way of reading supply/demand, order flow and pure PA that I’ve never seen before (none of the Sam Seiden or Al Brooks regurgitated stuff).

He eventually began to run a small private live trading room where everyone was trading the new (unusual) pure PA which he discovered, and we were scalping EU and UJ on M1, and momentum trading other pairs mainly on M30, H1.

The number of R-multiples he was pulling out of the market each day was mind-blowing. I would not believe it if I would have not seen him trading live day after day. He apparently started out with 10K and turned it into 100K within a year, and then he went full-time trading and apparently ended up with 3.5MM within few years.

Are those figures true? I don’t know, and it didn’t matter to me because he was trading live real-time with us, fully transparent, and nobody was able to outtrade him. He did say that when he was building up his capital that he’d sometimes risk upto 3% on certain trades, which when combined with the high expectancy and trade frequency makes those figure somewhat believable.

He was very humble, he never bragged about his success, he only mentioned those figures because few room members kept on asking him. The trading results from his real-time, fully transparent live trading were legit, and that’s all that mattered.

He took hiatus from retail trading and went to trade for a prop firm in London, then he returned to trading from home and this time focused on HTFs so he could enjoy his family and money. Then he unfortunately suddenly passed away during covid, he was only 40 years old. His death really shook me, and I lost interest in trading for a while.I recently became disabled, and these two experiences made me realise that it really doesn’t matter how much money one makes, that it is just a game.

The few examples above are proof that there are genuine (retail) trading teachers/mentors who are transparent and make consistent triple digit returns even in position trading, and from my experience, I believe that the right mentor can take the trader to the next level.

Obviously, unfortunately the reality is that most of the trading “educators” are usually failed traders and they just know how to talk and market themselves without any track record.

Ultimately, it does not really matter because one has to become hard working independent thinker, the silver bullet does not exist. The one-size-fits-all does not work in trading.

Those of you who aspire to become a professional traders, you owe it to yourself to bust your ass until your dreams become a reality. Never settle for less than your absolute best.

100% Xela.

Brit. Uses s/z, "realise"

Was very active on forexfactory before coming to ET. Banned from both.

@Xela, wtf are "HTFs"?
 
I generally don't like to share information from private conversations, but since he's not identified here I assume it would be harmless to deliver some general information.

He lives on the east coast and would only trade 90 - 120 minutes prior to his day job. Very early on and while he was still trading he said his goal was to eventually quit trading and just put all his money into investments and index funds. And that's pretty much what he did.

He said something about how even after he became profitable day trading never gave him any sense of achievment and how he would experience it as meaningless - especially since it would happen that he neglected his family (he had children) in the mornings while day trading.

Regardless, one hell of a run. From what I can recall and from what he told me he basically used classical TA, but he did of course also have a lot of experience and seemed to be very disciplined to the point where he said there would be days he would skip as he anticipated they'd be narrow range days.

Thanks for sharing. Quite frankly it sounds like he fed you a bullshit story, similar to many I’ve heard over the years. Nothing about it rings true - not the returns from daytrading ES, not the “ordinary guy spends a few minutes before work casually mastering a skill set that many thousands have tried and failed”, and definitely not riding off into the sunset of index funds after taking his account up by 100 fold in two years to the not exactly huge sum of $135k.

Again, no disrespect to you and thanks for relating the story.
 
He rode TSLA up with LEAPS. He's legit but it was basically AON.

Gotcha, I mean he seems to have general market knowledge, but the video I watched he was just buying verticals on stocks he thought were going to make a move based on his indicator on TOS.
 
Another guy I spoke with back in 2010 said he funded a 15K account and tripled it in 6 months day trading ES. Then he withdrew half and tripled that the next 6 months.

My impression was that he was profitable and honest and I have no reason to not believe him as he wasn't selling anything or trying to convince me of anything. He did seem to use retail TA, but I could tell he was different than many of the posters here in terms of mindset and attitude towards trading. Key words being extremely professional and serious about his trading.

He left ET rather quickly and called it a laughing stock of the internet and warned me to not get consumed by the negativity. LOL.


Yeah, and in another 10Y he'll have enough to live on. I have never seen so many uninspired pikers in my life.
 
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