Who are some LEGIT Retails that "made it"?

This isn't true.

if you put 80k into AAPL 10 years ago, you would have a million dollars. We know that day traders can outperform this so i don't see why my statement is such a shock to people.

What isn’t true?

That sounds like an investment and not a trade. Exactly what in my post did you disagree with as you seem to be repeating my message?
 
What isn’t true?

That sounds like an investment and not a trade. Exactly what in my post did you disagree with as you seem to be repeating my message?

the specific part I quoted: the last two years were the only two good trader years.

who cares what’s investing vs what’s trading. the grocery store doesn’t care.

If buy and holding apple produced a 1mm fortune then surely all the swing traders, chart readers, day traders would outperform that (not counting the leverage they could employ).
 
I know one guy on here that turned low 5-figs into $5MM over a few years. I’ve seen the account in real-time. He’s in his mid-20s. I’m not going to divulge his handle but he’s in chat when not traveling.

You and I both know a few “young-ins” who will be worth nine figures before they are done.
 
cmmon man of all the retails , ICT? The guy who claims to have been kidnapped by the fx mob and bundled into a van for revealing secrets? Guys an absolute clown, with zero substantiated track record other than what he reckons. He’s been called on all this and more plus other previous pretences and still he reels em in

mentioning Qual and him in the same thread is sacrilegious

I know, funny sht when you get some space from it.

However, he does have live results but one has to dig, he also has some epic fails. I'm more troll now but his content still fits the bill of the thread. Last I checked his lives still pull ~5k views which isn't too shabby and some of his top students have receipts.

One has to wade through ~30ish different entry models to even start backtesting.

I haven't done any DD on Qual, so I have no informed opinion.

Interesting you've used the word "sacrilegious" which implies that much of the space does have a devotional "cult" tone of whomever one aligns with; that devotees have found "The Holy Grail" of trading.
 
For some reason Darc, your comment, not you, angered me during my morning coffee scroll-through. It perpetuates the whole everybody/everything is "fake" narrative that is so rightfully or wrongfully, ridiculously engrained within the halls of ET.

Yea, tax returns show income from all sources (supposedly). And what if a person trades through an entity AND individual accounts... that's means a minimum of 2 tax returns. And then there are traders with multiple accounts, maybe separate for different trade styles, separate based on trading instruments, separate for different time horizons, separate for custodial differences, separate for a cornucopia of reasons. And any of them can be lifelong losing accounts. Which account statement(s) is acceptable "proof" of success? Here in ET, account statements are NOT acceptable proof...the Madoff scenario becomes front and center. Photoshop!! So tax returns and account statements are out. Expecting full access to all financial affairs is just as ridiculous as everything is fake.

So what is acceptable proof to the world of Elitetraders?
Is there (should there be) difference between a non-soliciting home trader with or without financial credentials and a vendor, credentialed or not, selling goods and/or services?
What is acceptable to ET?

I imagine, much like art and perception of beauty, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
 
I know one guy on here that turned low 5-figs into $5MM over a few years. I’ve seen the account in real-time. He’s in his mid-20s. I’m not going to divulge his handle but he’s in chat when not traveling.

Reminds me of that dude in one of the Hall of Fame threads, I forget. His age doesn't line up though. Mid-20's, hormones still raging, still time to go on tilt.

Lot's of life experience yet to be had; gutted by relationship betrayal being one that causes most trauma.
 
the specific part I quoted: the last two years were the only two good trader years.

who cares what’s investing vs what’s trading. the grocery store doesn’t care.

If buy and holding apple produced a 1mm fortune then surely all the swing traders, chart readers, day traders would outperform that (not counting the leverage they could employ).

The devil is in the details. Specifically, I said, "It's only these last two years we've had anything that resembles a traders market in equities.".

What I mean by that is that the volatility have been heightened with plenty of sizeable swings both up and down which makes it a good market for short term traders.

Prior to that, we've had a massive central bank fueled bull market where plenty of people have made money simply by being in the market. Which requires little to no skill at all.

I never disputed any of your statements. I was just curious about how the people you quoted made their pile. Arguably, there's a huge difference in terms of skill set between buy and hold and actively trading.

If you bought certain stocks around 2000 you'd be breakeven 8 years later. I know a guy who's done incredibly well just by investing starting out (randomly) in 2009. Nothing spectacular about his strategy, but he was lucky to get started at a very opportune time.
 
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