Whither Republicans?

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

One issue holds tremendous peril for the Republicans, immigration. Bush angered a lot of the party's core supporters by backing an amnesty plan, which also had the backing of the Senate. With Democrats running the House, an amnesty plan could likely pass both houses and land on Bush's desk. That would be a disaster of cataclysmic proportions for the Republicans.

Bush would likely sign such a bill, as he supported it before he decided Kerry-like that he actually opposed it.

In that event, an awful lot of Republican voters will feel totally sold out. Since they can't direct their anger at Bush, they will pick the next closest target, John McCain, who is a big supporter of amnesty. That could have the effect of destroying the chances of the Republicans' best hope for '08. Somehow McCain needs to convince some hard core conservatives in the Senate to filibuster this bill, even as he makes a show of supporting it.

You are right on the money, but not just for Republicans....for our entire country. This issue will rot this nation from the inside out and is a far greater threat than radical Islam. I would guess this single issue cost Republicans many seats, just by true conservatives that stayed home. This shit is gonna' get ugly.
 
Quote from jem:

Myself my family and most of the people I play tennis with at the tennis club would be the core support republicans could have.

They mismanaged their time in office and were so bad at governing I did not here one person say vote for republicans. they did say you cant vote for democrats.

The republicans absolutely sucked when they had a time to lead.

Where is the tax code reform, the secure borders, the lower spending or at least cuts to match the spending.

they sucked and now the dems will suck.

Definitely. The irony though is that determined Democrat opposition prevented them from accomplishing some of the items you listed, like tax reform. Others were Bush's fault. like border security.

Bottom line, we need some new leaders. Maybe try something new and get people that can speak in complete sentences.
 
There's nothing to gloat about here for anyone in these election results imo anymore than you'd gloat about being called out to shoot a rabid animal.

Dems have taken on a responsibility here. Both houses, and Bush for his part, better have gotten the message that they better start producing for the American people -- not just these crazy special interests and big corporations.

We've got big pressing problems eating us alive. I'll be dismayed if this sinks down into bitter partisanship, impeachment and all that bullshit.
 
Quote from jem:

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they sucked and now the dems will suck.
Maybe, but the Dems couldn't come close to sucking as bad as Repugs. Repugs have the all-time records.

Two worst Administrations in US history: Shrub and Harding, both Repugs.

Last two Presidents to balance the budget: Clinton and Johnson, both Democrats.

The last Repugnikhan President to balance the budget: NOBODY !!!

How the fuck did you assclowns get a reputation for fiscal responsibility? :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
Quote from Trader5287:

There's nothing to gloat about here for anyone in these election results imo anymore than you'd gloat about being called out to shoot a rabid animal.

Dems have taken on a responsibility here. Both houses, and Bush for his part, better have gotten the message that they better start producing for the American people -- not just these crazy special interests and big corporations.

We've got big pressing problems eating us alive. I'll be dismayed if this sinks down into bitter partisanship, impeachment and all that bullshit.

The problem is there is no agreement on what needs to be done. Democrats want to raise taxes, Republicans cut them. Democrats want socialized medicine, Republicans want to look out for drug companies. Some want more immigration and amnesty, others are dead set against it.

At most, I look for fiddling around the edges. Minimum wage will be raised. Some changes made to social security drug program. There will be investigations, maybe even impeachment hearings. Even if Dem's don't want to, they have to throw some red meat to their activists.
 
Dems want to raise taxes on the rich...

Dems want to make health care affordable for all...

Dems want to restore college tuition credits...



Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

The problem is there is no agreement on what needs to be done. Democrats want to raise taxes, Republicans cut them. Democrats want socialized medicine, Republicans want to look out for drug companies. Some want more immigration and amnesty, others are dead set against it.

At most, I look for fiddling around the edges. Minimum wage will be raised. Some changes made to social security drug program. There will be investigations, maybe even impeachment hearings. Even if Dem's don't want to, they have to throw some red meat to their activists.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Dems want to raise taxes on the rich...

Dems want to make health care affordable for all...

Dems want to restore college tuition credits...

Yeah right. Democrats want to raise taxes on working people, basically anyone who makes a decent living. They view them as greedy.

Health care can never be "affodable for all" just as housing can't be. Liberals throw around these idiotic slogans to hide what they want, government run health care. If you like going to the Motor Vehicles Department, you'll love it.

Why should taxpayers subsidize college students? They seem to have enough money for cell phones, beer, non stop partying. Ever hear of a job? All these subsidies go straight into the universities' well-stuffed coffers. They raise prices as fast as the government raises subsidies. The only difference between medicare and higher education is the government controls what health care providers can charge. Maybe they should start doing that with universities.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Maybe they should start doing that with universities.

That's just what we need- The gov't stepping in to regulate (=ruin) one of the few remaining thriving, world class industries this country has left.
 
"Democrats want to raise taxes on working people, basically anyone who makes a decent living."

Funny, the sheeple stopped believing the right wing lies long enough to vote them out, but look who keeps repeating them....

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Yeah right. Democrats want to raise taxes on working people, basically anyone who makes a decent living. They view them as greedy.

Health care can never be "affodable for all" just as housing can't be. Liberals throw around these idiotic slogans to hide what they want, government run health care. If you like going to the Motor Vehicles Department, you'll love it.

Why should taxpayers subsidize college students? They seem to have enough money for cell phones, beer, non stop partying. Ever hear of a job? All these subsidies go straight into the universities' well-stuffed coffers. They raise prices as fast as the government raises subsidies. The only difference between medicare and higher education is the government controls what health care providers can charge. Maybe they should start doing that with universities.
 
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