White House Says "Birthers" Aren't Rational

Quote from 377OHMS:

There is no certificate of live birth:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/friend_says_abercrombie_to_him.html

Could it be that Mr. Obama is not eligible to be president?
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"On October 31st, 2008, officials in Hawaii released a statement that they had examined the birth certificate, but failed to declare whether it was a Live Birth Certificate generated by a hospital with signatures of the attending physician or a 'Late Birth' Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that could have been obtained (for a child) who is one year old or older after birth by a simple affirmation of a family member," wrote investigator Jorge L. Baro, of Elite Legal Services in Florida.

"Only the 'Long Form' original certificate will answer all questions about the date and location of birth and confirm that it occurred in Hawaii," he said.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=103294
 
Quote from pspr:

"On October 31st, 2008, officials in Hawaii released a statement that they had examined the birth certificate, but failed to declare whether it was a Live Birth Certificate generated by a hospital with signatures of the attending physician or a 'Late Birth' Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that could have been obtained (for a child) who is one year old or older after birth by a simple affirmation of a family member," wrote investigator Jorge L. Baro, of Elite Legal Services in Florida.

"Only the 'Long Form' original certificate will answer all questions about the date and location of birth and confirm that it occurred in Hawaii," he said.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=103294
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I see, so he was dragged to Hawaii as a baby and simply declared to be born in Hawaii. That doesn't cut it for eligibility for President. Barrack and Michelle may end up having to pay back all the money for the lavish travel eheh. :)

Seriously, there is definitely some kind of problem with the whole thing and it out to be investigated properly like they did with the Black Panthers at the voting site thing in philly. :D
 
Quote from pspr:

"On October 31st, 2008, officials in Hawaii released a statement that they had examined the birth certificate, but failed to declare whether it was a Live Birth Certificate generated by a hospital with signatures of the attending physician or a 'Late Birth' Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that could have been obtained (for a child) who is one year old or older after birth by a simple affirmation of a family member," wrote investigator Jorge L. Baro, of Elite Legal Services in Florida.

"Only the 'Long Form' original certificate will answer all questions about the date and location of birth and confirm that it occurred in Hawaii," he said.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=103294
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There was an online video... supposedly of a country registrar in Nigeria who said he would "swear in court and provide proof" that Odumbo was born in Kenya.

People have STRONG opinions on this issue... but who has documentation and proof?
 
I agree that he was probably born in Hawaii. But I find it puzzling that he doesn't produce the original birth certificate and put this issue to bed once and for all.

It's the same problem with his undergraduate college records. Gibbs insists that there's nothing in there of any interest, but at the same time they won't release them.

It seems like irrational behavior. Why would you keep something of "no interest" a secret?


Quote from 377OHMS:

I'm not a birther.

I suspect he was born in Hawaii. What I don't understand is why the adminstration does not put it all to rest.

Supposing I was president I would just show them my birth certificate as there isn't anything particularly sensitive on a birth certificate aside from parents names, their citizenship and age etc.

Any decent PR firm would have just snuffed this with the real birth certificate. I wonder what the problem is.
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Quote from Scataphagos:


People have STRONG opinions on this issue... but who has documentation and proof?
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In the 2012 election all candidates for president will have to provide proof of eligibility as it should have been in the past. This has been a serious lapse of making sure the requirement to be president have been met by candidates. The states have made sure candidates for Congress from their state have met the eligibility requirements. Starting in 2012, they will require the same for presidential candidates.
 
Quote from chartman:

In the 2012 election all candidates for president will have to provide proof of eligibility as it should have been in the past. This has been a serious lapse of making sure the requirement to be president have been met by candidates. The states have made sure candidates for Congress from their state have met the eligibility requirements. Starting in 2012, they will require the same for presidential candidates.
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Yeah, that's what they're say now... we'll see. (Should have been the same for the 2008 election..) :mad: :mad:
 
Quote from piezoe:

I think these fools would have to prove that Obama's mother was not a U.S. citizen. The place of his birth seems immaterial. For example, wasn't McCain born in Panama.
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Just how did McCain get certified to be eligible?

Did Arizona do it, even though he was born in Panama? Or is there an alternate mechanism through the military that did it?

How would these new certification laws have affected McCain's process of certification?
 
Quote from Haroki:

Just how did McCain get certified to be eligible?

Did Arizona do it, even though he was born in Panama? Or is there an alternate mechanism through the military that did it?

How would these new certification laws have affected McCain's process of certification?
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What kind of idiot are you? I don't know where McCain was born, but his citizenship and eligibility has not previously been questioned.

(If you respond, please do so with some logic and facts rather than Leftist spew..)
 
Quote from TGregg:

Pfft. If it was important that a birth certificate be found and it was not there, it would be there and would always have been there - know what I mean? And if one wasn't enough, they'd make dozens. There'd be people ready to fall on their sword if a forgery were discovered. Anybody with a typewriter could pull off a reasonable forgery. You can bet that the resources behind POTUS would be able to crank out one without a problem. This isn't some crazed libtard with MS Word and a Kinko's nearby.

And I don't care which party it is. Neither republicans nor democrats are going to let their president be washed down the drain because some 50 year old document wasn't handy.

It's pretty funny to see wide-eyed conspiracy theorists who suppose some super complex operation run by a great many uber genuises that is still at the same exact time, flaiming stupid and lazy. While not quite as bad, it still draws comparison to the libtards that were dead sure that Bush `43 was an utter idiot who also succefully masterminded the greatest conspiracy of all time, namely 9/11.
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except once obama turns in the forgery to Texas or another state under penalty of perjury - everyone involved will have immunity and millions of dollars for turning on him.

No chance Obama will turn in a fake doc.
Which is why we have no doc. (my guess) .
 
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