Whining Little B****!

exGOPer said:
https://www.afge.org/member-benefits/financial/union-plus-personal-loan/
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So tell me what the obscene interest rate is on these loans. BTW it is not a loan from the union it is from a Union Plus which is a credit union nationwide for union members.

Added info:

1Your repayment terms will depend on your APR and loan term for which you qualify. Example: On a 9.99% Fixed APR loan you will have (1) 36 monthly payments of $32.26 per $1,000 borrowed; or (2) 48 monthly payments of $25.36 per $1,000 borrowed; or (3) 60 monthly payments of $21.24 per $1,000 borrowed; or (4) 72 monthly payments of $18.52 per $1,000 borrowed. Your APR will be in the range of 7.74% Fixed APR (if you are enrolled in AutoPay) to 15.99% Fixed APR, depending on your creditworthiness. See Key Information on Your Loan for more details.

https://www.unionplus.org/benefits/money/personal-loan
 
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gwb-trading said:
Yes Banks and Credit Unions have been assisting federal workers.

This is the job of the union -- not financial institutions. The AFGE is the only union that I have heard of that does not provide partial pay or zero interest loans to its members when they are not being paid. After all the union dues they have collected it is shameful that they not do so.

I will agree that the federal workers are merely victims of the politics going on over on Capital Hill - and Trump bears a good portion of the responsibility & blame. I don't think that most federal workers support Trump -- after all Trump has already proclaimed most of them are Democrats.
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Wow I found the answer in a 10 second google search and you are still clinging to your false claim?
 
gwb-trading said:
-- after all Trump has already proclaimed most of them are Democrats.
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Because Trump said it, it is true. Is that how you evaluate facts, if someone says it, it is 100% true.

Wow....that is sad that you don't question anything you are told. There are countless other statements he made that were proven FALSE but Trump said most of them are Democrats and you drank the Kool-Aid without question.

Wow...this is so telling...
 
El OchoCinco said:
Wow I found the answer in a 10 second google search and you are still clinging to your false claim?
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So tell use again what you believe are the responsibilities of a union that collects over $50 Million per year in dues when the workers are going without paychecks.
 
El OchoCinco said:
Because Trump said it, it is true. Is that how you evaluate facts, if someone says it, it is 100% true.

Wow....that is sad that you don't question anything you are told. There are countless other statements he made that were proven FALSE but Trump said most of them are Democrats and you drank the Kool-Aid without question.

Wow...this is so telling...
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I was merely pointing out that Trump claimed most of the federal employees were Democrats which is diametrically opposed to the probability of Trump's claim that most federal workers support him.

The reality -- as I have pointed out earlier -- is that Trump's earlier statement that most of the federal workers going without pay on furlough are Democrats is likely true if you dug through all the statistics -- making it one of his true statements.... but one that should be completely irrelevant to the shutdown.
 
gwb-trading said:
So tell use again what you believe are the responsibilities of a union that collects over $50 Million per year in dues when the workers are going without paychecks.
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Why is it the point about what I believe are the responsibilities. Your whole focus of this exchange is on the Union to blame for workers going without pay. I know people being personally affected by this and I find it funny you have no words at all for your President who said "I will own the shutdown" yet all of you are finding everyone else to blame but him.
 
gwb-trading said:
I was merely pointing out that Trump claimed most of the federal employees were Democrats which is diametrically opposed to the probability of Trump's claim that most federal workers support him.
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Exactly, he bullshits out of both sides of his mouth but you support it by saying IF you dug through the statistics, likely true..... you are saying the same bullshit because you did not do the research or dig through the statistics. Most of the employees are OUTSIDE the D.C. area and also government workers have nothing to do with how a state votes. They are a tiny part of the local population.

I respect open difference on issues on facts and supported statements. Don't tell me you believe something Trump said as fact and disclaim it with a fact that it was never researched or supported by facts, Trump pulled it out of his asshole.

You even proved it by showing he said federal workers support him and then saying most are democrats. Neither are true
 
El OchoCinco said:
Exactly, he bullshits out of both sides of his mouth but you support it by saying IF you dug through the statistics, likely true..... you are saying the same bullshit because you did not do the research or dig through the statistics. Most of the employees are OUTSIDE the D.C. area and also government workers have nothing to do with how a state votes. They are a tiny part of the local population.

I respect open difference on issues on facts and supported statements. Don't tell me you believe something Trump said as fact and disclaim it with a fact that it was never researched or supported by facts, Trump pulled it out of his asshole.

You even proved it by showing he said federal workers support him and then saying most are democrats. Neither are true
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Actually I provided a complete post on how to dig through the statistics including references to the location of the workers, etc. Your are welcome to go further with the exercise. However based on the departments being furloughed, the location of the workers in these departments (with a large majority being around DC), and the statistics on voter registrations in the surrounding MD & VA counties plus DC -- it is likely Trumps' assertion is true.

The problem with his assertion is that it should have no relevance to the situation and if Trump actually is targeting Democratic workers with a government shutdown then he is breaking the law.
 
El OchoCinco said:
Why is it the point about what I believe are the responsibilities. Your whole focus of this exchange is on the Union to blame for workers going without pay. I know people being personally affected by this and I find it funny you have no words at all for your President who said "I will own the shutdown" yet all of you are finding everyone else to blame but him.
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I have stated multiple times that Trump bears the majority of the responsibility and fault for the shutdown.
 
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