Which way will you choose, more bottom up or more top down?

It would cause a run on Citibank, a well deserved run. That's what happens when businesses fail, people do business with other firms instead. That's not very complicated. Boosting "confidence" isn't the governments prerogative, particularly not faux confidence by bailing out failed corporations. That's well outside the scope of government and has created bubble after bubble. This kind of nonsense by government has created the mess we're now in.

I never suggested "no public works", you just made that up. I never said it. For you, trying to engage a debate without making strawman arguments is like trying to fight with your hands tied. You just don't seem to know any other approach to a discussion.

I never said "flat taxes". You just made that up too. However, yes, I think taxes should be much flatER, as they are throughout most of the developed world.

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:) That's better, much better.

So, you are suggesting that we let Citibank fail then? And how does that boost confidence? Ah, yes, a run on the banks, that's how.

You also suggest that the government stand by while it's citizens languish, no public works? Nice.

Inflation is a product of supply and demand, so because u refused to stimulate the econ, there are less companies to make bread. Not more, so what does bread do? It does up? Really?

Flat taxes, so the single mother with four kids loses what, 10% of her already meager income? The billionaire pays 10% of his wealth. Ouch, that would really hurt that billionaire, I gotta tell ya.
 
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It would cause a run on Citibank, a well deserved run. That's what happens when businesses fail, people do business with other firms instead. That's not very complicated. Boosting "confidence" isn't the governments prerogative, particularly not faux confidence by bailing out failed corporations. That's well outside the scope of government and has created bubble after bubble. This kind of nonsense by government has created the mess we're now in.

I never suggested "no public works", you just made that up. I never said it. For you, trying to engage a debate without making strawman arguments is like trying to fight with your hands tied. You just don't seem to know any other approach to a discussion.

I never said "flat taxes". You just made that up too. However, yes, I think taxes should be much flatER, as they are throughout most of the developed world.

so endorse some public works?

Then you are suggesting the top does need some involvement. Central planning is sometimes needed?

There are only 6 first world countries with personal taxes less than ours, and this counting Mexico. How much flatter do think you we need to be? Really?
 
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It would cause a run on Citibank, a well deserved run. That's what happens when businesses fail, people do business with other firms instead. That's not very complicated. Boosting "confidence" isn't the governments prerogative, particularly not faux confidence by bailing out failed corporations. That's well outside the scope of government and has created bubble after bubble. This kind of nonsense by government has created the mess we're now in.

I never suggested "no public works", you just made that up. I never said it. For you, trying to engage a debate without making strawman arguments is like trying to fight with your hands tied. You just don't seem to know any other approach to a discussion.

I never said "flat taxes". You just made that up too. However, yes, I think taxes should be much flatER, as they are throughout most of the developed world.

A failure of C would not cause a run on C, it would cause a run on BANKS. Study some history.
 
"Public works" is not central planning. "Public works" are generally funded and administrated locally, not federally.

I didn't say anything about taxes being higher or lower, I said FLATTER, and the vast majority of developed nations have FLATTER taxes than the USA. What is wrong with you? Are you continuing to try to make things up which I haven't said to support your argument, or are you really that illiterate? Do you not know the difference between LOW taxes and FLAT taxes? Are you really this stupid? :confused:

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so endorse some public works?

Then you are suggesting the top does need some involvement. Central planning is sometimes needed?

There are only 6 first world countries with personal taxes less than ours, and this counting Mexico. How much flatter do think you we need to be? Really?
 
The guy who doesn't know the difference between LOW and FLAT, or "public works" and "central planning" now wants to cast aspersions about historical familiarity... LOL!! That's priceless.



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A failure of C would not cause a run on C, it would cause a run on BANKS. Study some history.
 
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The guy who doesn't know the difference between LOW and FLAT, or "public works" and "central planning" now wants to cast aspersions about historical familiarity... LOL!! That's priceless.

Ad hom......

Now, can you get back the debate? No? Well, okay:D

Ill help you. A fiat currency requires confidence in that currency to work. The government could not let C fail for that reason.
 
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"Public works" is not central planning. "Public works" are generally funded and administrated locally, not federally.

I didn't say anything about taxes being higher or lower, I said FLATTER, and the vast majority of developed nations have FLATTER taxes than the USA. What is wrong with you? Are you continuing to try to make things up which I haven't said to support your argument, or are you really that illiterate? Do you not know the difference between LOW taxes and FLAT taxes? Are you really this stupid? :confused:

Local governments get that money from the feds, again, study.

Flatter? In a country with the 6th lowest personal income tax rates in the world, how do you flatten this out further?
 
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Local governments get that money from the feds, again, study.
They often do, but they should be getting it from local property taxes and the like. Collected locally by the users and spent locally for the users.
 
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They often do, but they should be getting it from local property taxes and the like. Collected locally by the users and spent locally for the users.

We would talking about a scenario where taxes are down because revenues are down because employment is down. When that happens, should the government say, "good luck with that" or should they do something?
 
Most "public works" are funded from local gas taxes, property taxes, and sales taxes. "Again study".

It's hard to have a serious discussion with someone who's too stupid to know the difference between "flat" taxes and "low" taxes.

If everyone's taxes are flat, at 88%, those are not "low" taxes, but they are still flat. Go contemplate on this profound and sophisticated concept. LOL!!

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Local governments get that money from the feds, again, study.

Flatter? In a country with the 6th lowest personal income tax rates in the world, how do you flatten this out further?
 
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