Which real live future trading room I should choose?
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I simply do not beleive this!
How can that be possible? Even at $1,000 per month he woyld need: 200,000 subscribers.........LOL I think you have a few 00's extra
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I know one guy with a trading service who made nearly $200million last year with it, not very many big time hedge fund managers even come close to making that.
How can that be possible? Even at $1,000 per month he woyld need: 200,000 subscribers.........LOL I think you have a few 00's extra
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I know one guy with a trading service who made nearly $200million last year with it, not very many big time hedge fund managers even come close to making that.
Anyone tried this room;
http://www.sandp500analyst.com/Premium.php
Here is another one: http://www.tradingeveryday.com
Any info you have of them is appreciated.
http://www.sandp500analyst.com/Premium.php
Here is another one: http://www.tradingeveryday.com
Any info you have of them is appreciated.
You can simply believe or not believe whatever you want, it's really not any concern of mine.
Until you see it from the inside, it's beyond belief the amount of money that some information publishers are making right now. I'd guess the 'net is producing a lot more millionares then the stock market is right now.
I have a friend who sells a system teaching AUTO MECHANICS how to market themselves to their local communities. He sells his kit for $797 and then has a monthly membership site for $67. He brings in about $4million.
Another guy makes nearly $10million selling marketing systems to dentists. Yet another just did over $23milliion in 5 days with an "Internet Marketing" product.
Another lady I know of (thought I don't know her personally) makes over $8million a year selling a $17, 73 page long ebook on how to overcome anxiety.
Doubleyourdating.com gets you in the door with a very simple $19 ebook, the company makes about $30million per year.
All of these numbers are pretty spectacular...and they are NOTHING compared to what a well managed site in the financial markets can make. The guys in the top of the field make amounts that are just crazy.
This is my favorite subject to talk about simply because it just drives TraderZones nuts really
. Aside from that though, people who make the claim "if you could trade - you wouldn't sell information to traders" are just nuts. If you make $10million trading, I can pretty much gaurantee your working 70+ hours per week and very rarely get a vacation. The lifestyle people hope may come with it rarely does. On the other hand, I know of many people making seven figures selling products to traders and they work under 40 hours per week.
I can speak of my own situation. If you go back in the logs you can see where I was at just in Feb. of this year. I was in the hospital, very sick and nearly died. My insurance coverage had maxed out when I had cancer - and so I was up the creek without a paddle so to speak.
At first I was going to just start my trading site back up again - sell a newsletter, course etc. I figured it would make me a good high six to low seven figures, and I'd have been happy with that for sure, and it would have allowed me to build back a trading account. However I kind of felt like a douche bag telling people what to do financially when I was myself broke. From the last 90's till 05 I ran one of the more successful daytrading chatrooms, and so I know something about marketing..and so I basically just decided to focus on that. I built some sites for myself selling some cheap little products and made a nice chunk, and got a lot of bills paid off. Then I started to focus on launching products, selling high end $1000 + products, and turning the release of those products into an event, generating huge sales for the product owner.
I structure my fee's pretty much like a hedge fund...ie I get paid by performance...and it's been a very good year for me. I've gotten all of my debt's paid off, getting ready to buy a house again, have a great girlfriend and I'll make close to $1million this year.
I just reopened a trading account again about a month ago and am having more fun trading then I did in a long time.
Anyway, you can think what you like about selling shovels and axes and tents...but the only family from the California Gold Rush who's still around with a lot of money is that of the guy who made the blue jeans
Until you see it from the inside, it's beyond belief the amount of money that some information publishers are making right now. I'd guess the 'net is producing a lot more millionares then the stock market is right now.
I have a friend who sells a system teaching AUTO MECHANICS how to market themselves to their local communities. He sells his kit for $797 and then has a monthly membership site for $67. He brings in about $4million.
Another guy makes nearly $10million selling marketing systems to dentists. Yet another just did over $23milliion in 5 days with an "Internet Marketing" product.
Another lady I know of (thought I don't know her personally) makes over $8million a year selling a $17, 73 page long ebook on how to overcome anxiety.
Doubleyourdating.com gets you in the door with a very simple $19 ebook, the company makes about $30million per year.
All of these numbers are pretty spectacular...and they are NOTHING compared to what a well managed site in the financial markets can make. The guys in the top of the field make amounts that are just crazy.
This is my favorite subject to talk about simply because it just drives TraderZones nuts really
. Aside from that though, people who make the claim "if you could trade - you wouldn't sell information to traders" are just nuts. If you make $10million trading, I can pretty much gaurantee your working 70+ hours per week and very rarely get a vacation. The lifestyle people hope may come with it rarely does. On the other hand, I know of many people making seven figures selling products to traders and they work under 40 hours per week. I can speak of my own situation. If you go back in the logs you can see where I was at just in Feb. of this year. I was in the hospital, very sick and nearly died. My insurance coverage had maxed out when I had cancer - and so I was up the creek without a paddle so to speak.
At first I was going to just start my trading site back up again - sell a newsletter, course etc. I figured it would make me a good high six to low seven figures, and I'd have been happy with that for sure, and it would have allowed me to build back a trading account. However I kind of felt like a douche bag telling people what to do financially when I was myself broke. From the last 90's till 05 I ran one of the more successful daytrading chatrooms, and so I know something about marketing..and so I basically just decided to focus on that. I built some sites for myself selling some cheap little products and made a nice chunk, and got a lot of bills paid off. Then I started to focus on launching products, selling high end $1000 + products, and turning the release of those products into an event, generating huge sales for the product owner.
I structure my fee's pretty much like a hedge fund...ie I get paid by performance...and it's been a very good year for me. I've gotten all of my debt's paid off, getting ready to buy a house again, have a great girlfriend and I'll make close to $1million this year.
I just reopened a trading account again about a month ago and am having more fun trading then I did in a long time.
Anyway, you can think what you like about selling shovels and axes and tents...but the only family from the California Gold Rush who's still around with a lot of money is that of the guy who made the blue jeans
You have offered no evidence of anything that you have said at all, aside from one website link which isn't doing much to support your case at the moment. Why should anyone believe you?
Then I'm sure you won't mind providing us with some website links to at least show SOME evidence that your claims are not complete BS.
If he makes $4 million selling systems to auto mechanics, then I'm sure he can afford a website - what is it? Provide a link, please.
Website link, please. I'm sure he can afford one.
Website link, please.
She must be doing this on the internet, correct? Website link, please.
Really? How exactly do you know this? Are you affiliated with them? The site looks like it was programmed in 1997. You'd think that a company that made $30 million could afford to spend $20,000 to develop a decent website. Hmmmm.....
You were asked to provide a link to the site that you claim generated $200 million last year. You have not done so. Link, please.
This is my favorite subject to talk about simply because it just drives TraderZones nuts really
It's not driving me nuts, because so far the only thing you have provided is a link to a site that looks like it was programmed by a 15 year-old. Provide some more simple evidence if you want anyone to believe you, or "be driven nuts".
I know of people who can make $1 million per year off of a trading site - simple math can confirm that when you figure out how many subscribers they have, and how much they pay. $10 million is a little much, though... but a few million, that is potentially possible. Most would make in the mid to high 6 figures though, not much more than that. Not a bad living, but it's not exactly George Soros money. The very best traders in the world make a lot more than $1 million per year. We're still waiting to hear who this guy is that made $200 million selling products to traders.
Anyway, you can think what you like about selling shovels and axes and tents...but the only family from the California Gold Rush who's still around with a lot of money is that of the guy who made the blue jeans
No doubt that people have made money on the internet. But the amounts you are claiming are a little ridiculous, and so far you have provided absolutely no proof that you are doing anything but making these things up. Provide some website links, it should be easy to do.
So I did some follow-up research, and it does look like doubleyourdating.com actually has some traffic going there...
Using the stats at the following site:
http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.doubleyourdating.com
We can figure out that they get 42,000 page hits per day, at an average of 2 page hits per user. 1.3% of those page hits go to the order page, so we can assume that on average 273 people per day are actually ordering something. Incredible that anyone would actually pay for this stuff, but...
If 273 people per day are ordering, and he's charging (let's say) $20 per order, then that's $5000 per day, or approximately $2 million per year. He would have to charge $300 apiece to reach the $30 million that was claimed, which given how desperate some guys are out there, might be possible(?). (I still kind of doubt it.. he'd have to upsell a lot of people to go from $2 million to $30 million. Also, it's not clear that every page hit to the order page is actually resulting in a sale - I doubt that's the case.)
Nevertheless, it is obvious that this site probably does make at least million or two a year, just from the traffic to the order page... unless I am misreading it somehow. If he really is making that amount of money, someone should tell the dumb-ass to update his website. It looks like a teenager programmed it for a school project.
Using the stats at the following site:
http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.doubleyourdating.com
We can figure out that they get 42,000 page hits per day, at an average of 2 page hits per user. 1.3% of those page hits go to the order page, so we can assume that on average 273 people per day are actually ordering something. Incredible that anyone would actually pay for this stuff, but...
If 273 people per day are ordering, and he's charging (let's say) $20 per order, then that's $5000 per day, or approximately $2 million per year. He would have to charge $300 apiece to reach the $30 million that was claimed, which given how desperate some guys are out there, might be possible(?). (I still kind of doubt it.. he'd have to upsell a lot of people to go from $2 million to $30 million. Also, it's not clear that every page hit to the order page is actually resulting in a sale - I doubt that's the case.)
Nevertheless, it is obvious that this site probably does make at least million or two a year, just from the traffic to the order page... unless I am misreading it somehow. If he really is making that amount of money, someone should tell the dumb-ass to update his website. It looks like a teenager programmed it for a school project.
there are a few big portals online and offline, street.com family is one and this is another. big revenue streams
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