WHICH-Day Trading Stocks or Futures?

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No Nik. I just expect the person who was -that- interested would just pay the $10 to sign up for PureTick and see if he was the real deal. Or if your near Vegas you can go to the traders expo this week for free and meet him there. Watch the methods. Also, our track record is a real life recording of trades we took in the room over the last year www.puretick.com/trkrecord.html I've also posted some back test results, brokerage statements from Alex and actual users in our room on ET over the last year. Comments such as 'this is adobed or fake' are not uncommon. We have one of the best records on the web so I'm not here to defend it. If someone is interested, they will come.

Geoff/Spectra

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Hey Spectra

I notice you've been around, posting in other threads, but you haven't been able to give us the data which we would need to determine if the system you're selling would actually work in real life. Those 14 point stops you advocate are problematic unless the win/loss ratio and size of average winner/average loser are optimal.

Hope you can provide the necessary data soon. Of course, since you're selling the system, you must have a decent amount of historical data to show that it is profitable... or else why would you be selling it, right?

Thanks, Nik
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No Nik. I just expect the person who was -that- interested would just pay the $10 to sign up for PureTick and see if he was the real deal.
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Really?? Wow, that's a bit strange. So Puretick says to its potential customers. 'We have a methodology that involves using a very large stop, one that isn't recommended by most experienced traders. However, we will not share with you the historical trading stats for the system that could even begin to rationalize the stops we advocate. If you give us $10, we will tell you all about it'??

That is bizarre.

Re: the idea that the reason you aren't giving out the stats is because you fear I would claim they're Photoshopped, so what? So let me claim that. Just post the historical results up here and let me be the judge.

The problem is, if you had no results and were afraid of being sued for misrepresentation, you would say the same thing. See?

Lastly, I've been asking for these results in three threads, probably 5 times over the past 3 weeks. Each time the request was ignored. Is that the way you treat potential customers who have questions about the product?
 
I do not monitor the threads that carefully. I have not honestly seen any of your request. If you want to make a valid and legit request please post them on our forum at http://www.puretick.com/BB2 or email them to trading@puretick.com If it seems bizarre or strange I would just run and not give it a second thought. I like people to come in with happy healthy view, not skeptical.

Caj

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Lastly, I've been asking for these results in three threads, probably 5 times over the past 3 weeks. Each time the request was ignored. Is that the way you treat potential customers who have questions about the product?
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Guys, Cut it out or the admins will kill this post. Profanity is not necessary. Only profits. Regardless of what you may think of Alex's home life. He makes good trading calls for myself and everyone in the room. I'll hang around with someone I don't like if they make me tons of money.

Cajun Sniper - Geoff - Co Admin

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Alex (aka miracle blade boy),
I have been traveling, and just read your pathetic post. You are a piece of shit. :D
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Hey Steal trader,

I did invite all detractors to Las Vegas, the Mandalay Bay Hotel to express their opinions. You could have showed the world YOUR SECRET WAY OF TRADING.

You could have told me to my face that I was a "piece of shit."

You could have done a lot yet you stay hidden on the internet. Chris Hansen by the way has nothing to do with patriots. He exposes little wimps who hide on the internet and solicit minors for sex. I see you are not too BRIGHT.

As for selling, well let's see. Any people on Elite Trader out here who have ever had a job in sales? Want to step forward and educate our little wimpy steal trainer? What is wrong with a career in sales? I don't get it. Help me on that one.

I admit selling knives is pretty lame. Any one out in Elite Trader land ever have a high school job that would now be looked at as less than an elite occupation? Yep, I was eighteen years old and sold Cutco Knives door to door. In 1968 I earned about $180.00 per week for the six months I did that.

Are you jealous stink trader? I will bet you could not ring one door bell of anyone on earth and not have them call Chris Hansen. LOL

Yes selling things like knives is pretty puerile. Look that word up small trader. It is almost as bad as selling MixMasters. Like that other clown salesman---Ray Kroc. No, stupid trader, he is not the guy who got killed by the stingray.

I am not a good salesperson. A great salesperson is able to easily absorb insults from punks like you, smile, and convert them to clients. My lizard brain was just sitting on that airplane, flying out to Vegas and fantasizing about someone pointing out stealtraitor and taking you over my knee and spanking you.

But the part of me that wants to rip your throat out and "stuff it in my garbage disposal" is what makes me a decent trader.

That is right fellow traders. The secret to trading is maintaining that killer instinct. This job is not about saving the Manatees. Our job is to take money from panicking newbies.

Yes, the JimmyJams and pseudo traders of the world will be angry at your success. But they serve a purpose.

Without you mr newbie, I would not be in this business. During the trading day it is I who am taking your money. At night, I am using your insults to attract new clients. They want to see who is right, you or me.

Clients are not interested in your predictions.

They are interested in:

Called trades since Puretick has been in business: 2044
Correct calls: 1680
% Correct: 82%
Total profits after commission on model account trading 6 contracts: $180,000 and climbing.

Remember when we first went on line a little over a year ago? The JimmyJams PREDICTED after the first month of results, that it was a fluke, that give us some time and we will fall apart. Where are they now?

Oh yeah---they became you. OK maybe you are right. To take a valid sample of trades we probably need 2 years. OK moron. Come back next year. If a salesman and piece of crap like me can do so well trading these methods, imagine what a good trader should be able to do? WOW!!!!!

And if I have to be a salesman next year---I will do it. But like Chris Gardner (not Hansen) I will be a damn good one.

Alex L. Wasilewski
Co-Founder & Head Trader
Trades That Work
www.puretick.com
1-877-GOLONG1 (1-877-465-6641)
 
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I do not monitor the threads that carefully. I have not honestly seen any of your request. If you want to make a valid and legit request please post them on our forum at http://www.puretick.com/BB2 or email them to trading@puretick.com If it seems bizarre or strange I would just run and not give it a second thought. I like people to come in with happy healthy view, not skeptical.

Caj
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Ummm... so the request here on ET where you are a paying advertiser and solicit business is not a "valid and legit" request??

Now this is getting very interesting. Please explain how a request here on ET, a place where you actively solicit clients, for guidance and clarification regarding your claims, is not "valid and legit".

Also, you say that you want people coming in with 'healthy, happy views' and not skepticism. And yet, you yourself have pointed out that there are a lot of people in your business who are less than honest and just want your money. You have gone to great lengths to point out that you guys are different.

In light of this, wouldn't you actually want your clients to take a skeptical view, since you yourself have suggested that people need to be careful about using services such as yours? Wouldn't you welcome a client who came in and said "I am skeptical - please show me the documentation to back up what you claim".

I await your very prompt responses to both of these points.

Nik
 
Trader nik, Jimmy Jam, steal trader,

Just a clarification. I am the one making fun of the morons who can't spell. You are directing your remarks to my partner Cajun or Geof.

He is allowed to do what he wants because he is my partner. He does lots of work for me that contributes to our success. His spelling is not of my concern.

The reason I attack the rest of the idiots is because I want to anger you. It increased my sign up rate. It is fun.

I learned this from another (can't help admit it) dumb salesman. I met him at the Pottstown, PA airport while cleaning my airplane and he flew in on his personal helicopter and was waiting to pick his son up from the Hill School. He told me all about antagonizing a patsy, generating controversy and attracting business.

I know Donald Trump is a stupid salesman and not as smart as you or Jimmy Jam but he has his merits.

By the way, anyone who has additional comments is free to call my telephone number. I know with all the nuts out there I shouldn't do it but what the hell. It is toll free. So you can insult me on my dime. What better way to spend the weekend trader nic. You can put down your X-box for a while. If anyone is REALLY AMBITIOUS, you can come over here and visit. That would be the ultimate experience.

I can arrange to have my good friend from Philadelphia here as well. Joe Frazier. You can insult him as well. Wouldn't that be great? Tell the folks back home that you slapped around Alex Wasilewski and Joe Frazier, made nasty racial comments.

OK. OK. You will not be able to tell your friends. But your orthopedic surgeons would.

As far as stops go, do some research before opening the yap. Read John Carter's last book. How about Lewis Borsellino's latest lecture. Too close stops are the second leading cause of failure when it comes to newbie trading.

My track record proves it. Case closed.

As far as proving anything to anyone. I don't need to. If you don't want to join my room and learn anything, don't.

I will guarantee one thing. I can prove anything in the world to a trader. I can show all the statements, tax returns, airplane bills of sale, bank accounts. I guarantee you nic, the next trade I call on Monday morning---the first thing you will say "Ha, where the hell does he get that?" "What a stupid idea. I am just gonna wait until that gets stopped out ..... oh he is taking a profit. Ha, that is just dumb luck." And you will psychologically NEVER be able to follow the calls.

Honestly, I wish I could change that. But I can't. Most traders are too inured in their thinking to accept new ideas. Most traders do not understand that if they can find true panic in the markets then they can be correct almost 90% of the time. It took me years to accept that.

It took Linda Rashke years to accept that. Yes, she is just another newbie trader---no where as smart as Jimmy Jam, or trader nic or pseudo trader. But her scalp trades approach 90% as well. Her minimum stops on S+P is 3 points.

That is $150.00 per contract gang. At Puretick we use a minimum of 20 points. That is $100.00 per contract. I do accept your thinking trader nic. At this point in your career that is a lot of money.

My hope for you, and others who find $100.00 a lot of money is to become more successful, until you look at $100.00 as just an 1/8th tank of gas for your airplane.


Alex L. Wasilewski
Co-Founder & Head Trader
Trades That Work
www.puretick.com
1-877-GOLONG1 (1-877-465-6641)
 
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......Most traders do not understand that if they can find true panic in the markets then they can be correct almost 90% of the time. It took me years to accept that.

It took Linda Rashke years to accept that. Yes, she is just another newbie trader---no where as smart as Jimmy Jam, or trader nic or pseudo trader. But her scalp trades approach 90% as well. Her minimum stops on S+P is 3 points.......
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Could you explain this a little further... it is interesting...

thanks...


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I await your very prompt responses to both of these points.
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Quote from Spectra:

Trader nik, Jimmy Jam, steal trader,
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Seventeen paragraphs, and still no response to tradernik's' Questions. You want to impress people? Speak less about your airplane, and more on the questions they've asked. Otherwise, you come off as having reading comprehension issues at best, and having something to hide, at worst.

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