Quote from Bitstream:
oh man, of course they can; they genes mutate when there's the need to guarantee survival...look at plants or insects, they develop new colours that blend with the surroundings as defense from predator and such...is in their genes man, it is internal mechanics.
go back and study some physics and maybe some botanic, am sure u'll see the light eventually. i cant believe we are even discussin' this stuff.
and the odds are astronomical because there's not a shred of evidence about your gawd existence. also in physics gawd is considered a singularity and as such it is outside the boundaries of physical laws therefore the most improbable event of all...how's that for terrible odds?
R0R
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
You describe function, without knowing cause of function, nor if function was by design or chance...
Show me a shred of evidence of non-God....
Uh...where did the laws of physics come from....
Did they too just magically appear from nothing by random ignorant chance?
Doh!
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
You describe function, without knowing cause of function, nor if function was by design or chance...
Show me a shred of evidence of non-God....
Uh...where did the laws of physics come from....
Did they too just magically appear from nothing by random ignorant chance?
Doh!
Quote from Ricter:
You're on the run now, back to First Cause. Bad place to be. Let's grant that the First Cause put the Laws into effect, including natural selection and evolution. Therefore the egg came before the chicken.
"Show me a shred of evidence of non-God"? Are you really that stupid?? That IS what all the evidence shows. Show us the opposite.
Quote from Bitstream:
man, u are twistin' things and goin' off topic; we discussin' events and functions here not freakin first immobile engines.
and neither we discussin' where physical laws are comin from, there are hundreds of explanations for that...i suggest a read here: black holes and newborn universes..u get a few theories bout the origins of em...of course they are just theories but at least they are based on science and not on blind fanatism.
and again it is u who have to show evidence of somethin is not there not me that has to prove the obvious, oh boy if this is gettin ridiculous.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Which evolutionary events have you witnessed, in which a lower species evolved into a higher species?
Seen any non chickens laying chicken eggs?
LOL...
Which evolutionary function have you witnessed in which you observed a lower species evolve to a higher species?
Seen any sea creatures sprout legs, ditch their gills, and become land lubbers?
Double LOL...
I don't need to read theory after speculative theory, but thanks anyway...
Like I said, you believe whatever you like, fine by me...
And, no I don't have to show you anything of evidence, all I need to show you is that you theory is untested, unverified, and unverifiable.
If you want to believe it anyway, fine by me...
Oh, and facts are obvious, theories are created and exist not in observation, but in the mind of man....
Quote from Bitstream:
theories are speculative but are also based on science therefore on the realm of possibilities given the laws that govern our universe, unlike YOUR theories fabricated by a 1000s yr old civilization who had no clue whatsoever about astronomy, biochemistry and medicine. and for your info many of those theories have already been proven to be correct trough experiments, like the newtons laws and the dna nucleus existence. everythin' has been born from an idea in science and has gone to the process of validation...so rest assured many other experiments will follow provin' those theories u deem unverifiable to be, infact, valid...hows that for observation? ror
second, since u mention aquatic species, marine archeologists found a freakin' fossil, of a fish, that had develop LEGS, yes legs, to walk, maybe on this earth, and this could very well be the missin' link in the passage of evolution..so this may be just one piece of the puzzle but it adds up to the other 100s of thousands of pieces...so we have plenty of concrete evidence and u have absolutely nothin', ROR again.
Quote from Bitstream:
what u dont understand is that u dont need to dismiss science to keep your beliefs, infact many scientists believe in gawd but they dont refute anythin' that is before their eyes: the universe cud very well have been created by intel design and this design cud have tought out how to evolve a bacterium into a man. but if u decide to close your eyes and follow the bible to the letter, heck that's your choice, carry on.