Where to meet high-IQ traders and investors?

[dozu888]

Dozu has shown me the KISS strategy.
Identify mega trend like SPY is going to moon to infinity
BTFD
Retire with millions

that doesn't count lol.... assuming we are talking about something that involves some kind of timing instead of straight blind buys..

ironic isn't it.... the moms/pops who blindly go into 401k end up retiring on sp500, while day traders hustle for years/decades end up having nothing to show for.

 

[BlueWaterSailor]

That wasn't the case. The lack of closing ability was not because of laziness but rather the inability to do one or more of the following:

1. Identify the problem.
2. Come up with a solution.
3. Efficiently implement the solution.

Usually the problem lies with both 2 and 3. Zuckerberg, Gates and Jobs excelled exceptionally well at all three of those items. Some of the high IQ clowns I worked with could usually do 1 but would talk and talk about 2 and in the event that they completed 2, they would waste time executing 3 with detours that had nothing to do with task at hand. In some cases they could not even get 3 off the ground. I have also seen this with "traders". They talk a good game and seem smart and in the event they execute 2, they can't execute 3 (actually trade).

All that being said, I have also worked with exceptionally smart people who were serious closers. These types really stand out and are the type of people I want to be around.

Much as I hate to reinforce the "brilliant scientist who can't tie his own shoes" meme, this echoes quite a lot of my own experience. I've worked with some scary smart people over the last five years (the best engineers from companies at the top of the heap in Silicon Valley), and
real-world execution was almost never one of their strengths.

People who are terrific at executing are either not quite that intellectually brilliant, or - and this is a really good possibility - keep their light under a bushel (since intimidating people with it is likely to be counterproductive.) They come across as competent and powerful, but not (usually) as intellectual powerhouses.

 

[R1234]

Get a country club membership.

 

[gaussian]

You are an asshole and breathe down on the wrong guy and you know it. Not sure what @lentus has done to you. You produce some high quality post content at times but behave incredibly awkwardly around smart people.

I'm not sure what qualifies him as "smart". Nor do I understand "breathe down on the wrong guy" - his first two posts are basically saying this entire community is a bunch of Neanderthals incapable of even forming two coherent thoughts. I LOVE to get in the face of idiots that do this "high IQ" garbage. They are typically underperforming in life and hide behind the veneer of "IQ" to avoid the shame of being functionally incapable of normal human things. It's stupid and no different than "everyone doesn't like me so it's THEIR fault". A desperate human seeking some form of explanation for why they have no friends.

Lol, you made the assertion. How about you prove your point.?

I asserted nothing (except that he's a neckbeard - for which I have 11 pages of posts as evidence). He asserted some correlation in IQ without evidence - for an alleged "high IQ individual" this was a very low IQ move by him. The ball has, and always will be, in his court. I'm not responsible for presenting any evidence here.

You produce some high quality post content at times but behave incredibly awkwardly around smart people.

I'm not sure what you mean by "behave awkwardly around smart people". Is the implication Lentus is anything but a tool? I'm having a hard time believing it given the preponderance of evidence to the contrary. If Lentus is an example of a smart person I'm an idiot and I'm happy with it. I'll go slum it over with the rest of the idiots - more company there anyway.

 

[lentus]

Ok, I believe you.

The universe has a way
of humbling all of us. Work on that and you will be on your way. Have a beautiful day.

You have not shared some great wisdom I wasn't aware of. The ultimate humbling is the inevitability of death

 

[lentus]

Here's a suggestion.

Just start some threads with actual advanced topics.

Most of the members will be clueless but some elite few may very well possess the requisite intellectual ability to engage in a productive discussion.

You may be pleasantly surprised. Or you may choose to discount the usefulness of ET.

Some of the members really do know quite a bit about the analysis of marketable securities.

(OP is saying that most of the content on these forums is, generally speaking, unproductive for all of the members.)

I've tried. Signal/noise is incredibly low. Not worth the 10 minutes of thinking out and typing a post, really. ET is a basketcase as far as a discussion resource.

 

[lentus]

This is what I'm starting to think as well. Posturing and claims of intellectual prowess must be backed up with considered opinion. The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim. You have to be able to talk trading before you can get away with broad aspersions, ET or otherwise.

I didn't make any claims. I asked a question.

 

[GRULSTMRNN]

Well, then those observed individuals were perhaps not all that bright after all. If someone does not grasp their own job description I doubt they reach an iq of 115

That wasn't the case. The lack of closing ability was not because of laziness but rather the inability to do one or more of the following:

1. Identify the problem.
2. Come up with a solution.
3. Efficiently implement the solution.

Usually the problem lies with both 2 and 3. Zuckerberg, Gates and Jobs excelled exceptionally well at all three of those items. Some of the high IQ clowns I worked with could usually do 1 but would talk and talk about 2 and in the event that they completed 2, they would waste time executing 3 with detours that had nothing to do with task at hand. In some cases they could not even get 3 off the ground. I have also seen this with "traders". They talk a good game and seem smart and in the event they execute 2, they can't execute 3 (actually trade).

All that being said, I have also worked with exceptionally smart people who were serious closers. These types really stand out and are the type of people I want to be around.

 

[GRULSTMRNN]

Most of the community is bunch of geezers nadhigh school dropouts who did not quite catch the right exit in life. Not sure what is untrue about that. If you want to believe that most individuals on the other side of your posts are highly intelligent individuals who run a profitable business then all power to you. I doubt it

I'm not sure what qualifies him as "smart". Nor do I understand "breathe down on the wrong guy" - his first two posts are basically saying this entire community is a bunch of Neanderthals incapable of even forming two coherent thoughts. I LOVE to get in the face of idiots that do this "high IQ" garbage. They are typically underperforming in life and hide behind the veneer of "IQ" to avoid the shame of being functionally incapable of normal human things. It's stupid and no different than "everyone doesn't like me so it's THEIR fault". A desperate human seeking some form of explanation for why they have no friends.



I asserted nothing (except that he's a neckbeard - for which I have 11 pages of posts as evidence). He asserted some correlation in IQ without evidence - for an alleged "high IQ individual" this was a very low IQ move by him. The ball has, and always will be, in his court. I'm not responsible for presenting any evidence here.



I'm not sure what you mean by "behave awkwardly around smart people". Is the implication Lentus is anything but a tool? I'm having a hard time believing it given the preponderance of evidence to the contrary. If Lentus is an example of a smart person I'm an idiot and I'm happy with it. I'll go slum it over with the rest of the idiots - more company there anyway.

 

[lentus]

That wasn't the case. The lack of closing ability was not because of laziness but rather the inability to do one or more of the following:

1. Identify the problem.
2. Come up with a solution.
3. Efficiently implement the solution.

Usually the problem lies with both 2 and 3. Zuckerberg, Gates and Jobs excelled exceptionally well at all three of those items. Some of the high IQ clowns I worked with could usually do 1 but would talk and talk about 2 and in the event that they completed 2, they would waste time executing 3 with detours that had nothing to do with task at hand. In some cases they could not even get 3 off the ground. I have also seen this with "traders". They talk a good game and seem smart and in the event they execute 2, they can't execute 3 (actually trade).

All that being said, I have also worked with exceptionally smart people who were serious closers. These types really stand out and are the type of people I want to be around.

In my opinion and experience, the main problem with high-IQ low-performers is almost always #3.