Where to meet high-IQ traders and investors?

Here's a suggestion.

Just start some threads with actual advanced topics.

Most of the members will be clueless but some elite few may very well possess the requisite intellectual ability to engage in a productive discussion.

You may be pleasantly surprised. Or you may choose to discount the usefulness of ET.

Some of the members really do know quite a bit about the analysis of marketable securities.

(OP is saying that most of the content on these forums is, generally speaking, unproductive for all of the members.)
 
gaussian said:
[a]n actual intelligent individual is humble and helpful
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This is what I'm starting to think as well. Posturing and claims of intellectual prowess must be backed up with considered opinion. The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim. You have to be able to talk trading before you can get away with broad aspersions, ET or otherwise.
 
CharlesS said:
According to www.wordhippo.com, the Latin meanings of "lentus" include:
tedious, clogging, clinging, sluggish, tardy, callous, clammy, pliable, harsh, inflexible, rigid, lazy, limp, and dilatory
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"Lentus", as a Roman nickname, would be a close equivalent to "Slug" (i.e., lazy) - but that would be pretty mild by Roman standards; they weren't very complimentary with those things as a general practice. Ahala, Flaccus, Arvina, Verres, Brutus... I'm surprised there wasn't a 'Mentula' in the bunch, especially as often as it was used in all those dignified discussions in the Senate.

(I got interested in Roman history some years ago; did the reenactment thing, all that. Nothing to see here, carry on...)
 
Real Money said:
The burden of proof is on he who makes the claim. You have to be able to talk trading before you can get away with broad aspersions, ET or otherwise.
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Even so, I agree in general that ET is a true social network. I enjoy waxing poetic about trading opportunities and the theoretical values of options - but at the end of the day this is basically a bar for all of us. After a long day of watching the markets you mosey in and have some banter with some guys about whatever it is everyone is talking about. I like topics with people I can have a beer with. I prefer not to get into personal insults like IQs. Its up there with politics, religion, and women - it's probably best not to talk about any of 'em ;D. Markets are stressful enough - no need to turn it into a religion.

BlueWaterSailor said:
"Lentus", as a Roman nickname, would be a close equivalent to "Slug" (i.e., lazy) - but that would be pretty mild by Roman standards; they weren't very complimentary with those things as a general practice. Ahala, Flaccus, Arvina, Verres, Brutus... I'm surprised there wasn't a 'Mentula' in the bunch, especially as often as it was used in all those dignified discussions in the Senate.

(I got interested in Roman history some years ago; did the reenactment thing, all that. Nothing to see here, carry on...)
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I just want you to know I appreciate this. I have a copy of Wheelock's Latin on my bookshelf but I never really pursued it in more than a passing way. I ended up in Spanish rather than Latin in High School - mostly for practical reasons.
 
That is naive on so many levels. No, intelligent people can be helpful and humble when they feel nurtured and theif work is reciprocated. Intelligent people can also become incredibly cynical and give up on humanity when they have come across enough bullshit and crap.

Your insinuations that intelligent but arrogant or demanding people cannot learn is also crap. I consider myself demanding and short tempered. Intelligent. But with a short fuse. Call me arrogant. But I learn all the fucking time. And I can admit mistakes. When I am proven wrong I am the first to get on his knees to apologize.

What you are completely denying here is the fact that exposure to total imbeciles and idiots can be so incredibly frustrating and taxing. It wears down. It depresses. Those people moan all day long about things that are completely beyond their control. Yet they do nothing about the things they have influence over. No way in hell I hang out with such people. I currently take the piss out of idiots because it's side entertainment in an otherwise often very unentertaining profession.

gaussian said:
I despise people who specifically seek "high IQ individuals" and turn their nose up because a forum has people who aren't that smart. An actual intelligent individual is humble and helpful - this guy is a neckbeard. This kind of reddit-tier "humble brag" post isn't welcome here (imo) and someone who only wants to associate with "high IQ" individuals (where the baseline IQ is clearly theirs) doesn't belong here. It's not useful, and they are typically the kind of people incapable of learning because learning requires a degree of humility they do not possess.

I apologize, you got caught up the crossfire. It's only my intention of getting under the skin of this lentus guy - not you.
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Yes given they are intelligent.

@Overnight is probably 20-30+ years ahead of me. A nice chap. Not intelligent. But fun to drink beers with. But hell, not one post I have ever come across by him contained anything I deemed of value or worth learning. But he is a nice good guy. Good boy, Overnight

Nobert said:
But it might help you to build relationships/bridges, with people, who are 10-30 years ahead of your game.
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It's more complex than that. Zuckerberg, Gates, Jobs all knew how to "close" and all of them are very intelligent. Perhaps you just came across some intelligent people who believed they get what they want with minimal effort and hence laziness.

fan27 said:
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I have worked in tech since 2000, have been trading off and on since then and have come across very smart people who just couldn't "close". They can talk theory all day long but they can't make anything happen. Seek out people who are closers (who will also likely have above average IQ) and you will save yourself a bunch of time.
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What degrees do you have? At which university and which program exactly?

Handle123 said:
I have gifted intelligence, though I wish I was average, my father's had same as Einstein or higher. Life is without much humor or happiness, life is very too long in duration, understanding people is harder, takes much work overcoming uneasiness to try to blend in. Both my father and myself worked for government in decoding, father for dozen years and mine was sporadic at 17 years, I found it boring but traveled much, had photo memory, even foreign languages I did not know. Cause of having Klinefelter's have speech impediment, so I type as I can pronounce. Yes, have multiple degrees, they helped more for fundamentals and stats.

I have found the markets a challenge, not me against others who trade or markets themselves, but against myself. Exploring charts of what is there and define patterns well enough to be programmed. Or absence of patterns that should be there. Failed patterns are best, waiting for retail to fail are gravy as their thinking is wrong in market principles of how price flows or under funded.

I agree in perseverance and use of sciences, and many errors are opportunities to do again a different way. Discoveries almost always found by error. Never expect any dumb response to be useless as it may offer a favorable new test. IMHO

I not posted much nor answered PM's of late, recently had another surgery, my 11th in 11 years, should be my last for awhile. But blood pressure too low. I often wonder with new medicines is it all worth it.

I spend 100% of my time in Risk management, how can I arrange my entries to have positive expandencty. And using equity curve of last 41 years to my benefits, it has worked well on trading commercial systems for past 11 years. I don't want to learn about cycles but they are everywhere.

Have a wonderful weekend all.
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