Seems to me that it would be more prudent to find a spot somewhat near your current residence rather than some place half-way around the world. Unless you plan to uproot and move there well before anticipated SHTF, that is.
1) Logistics of setting up and maintaining the residence become problematic.
2) In many cases travel would need to be by air and require border crossings.
It'd probably be better to buy a plot of land/cabin within 500 miles of where you live.
1) Logistics of setting up and maintaining the residence become problematic.
2) In many cases travel would need to be by air and require border crossings.
It'd probably be better to buy a plot of land/cabin within 500 miles of where you live.
First of all, Singapore is going to be over-run by Indonesians and Malaysians... What do think? Jim Rogers and his Mandarin-speaking daughters are going to prevent the hoards of hatchet-wielding Indonesians from pouring in?
The question isn't where you're going to go... the question is what is your clan affiliation. I wouldn't move to another country where I have no historical ties and no family contacts... that would just make me a plump, stupid, solitary American who can be fleeced.
I'd rather just use the fuel I can gather to move myself, my extended family (including cousins, aunts + uncles), and some trusted (and useful) long-term friends to some rural crap-hole farming town 6 to 8 hours north of New York City.
I would either grab some defensible land, or I would buy it/lease it with some physical gold that I squirreled away. I figure if I grab some New York State land, and the government has melted away, then it's my land so long as I can defend it.
The Winters are going to be cold and long, but a dozen generations back, Native Americans and settlers survived up there with less legacy technology, less education, and less life-long immunizations.
After about 6 months of anarchy, I would expect some Brooklyn and Bronx mofos to make they way up north in search of my preserves, my venison jerky, and my dried fruit. But, by then, they will be hungry and weak, and will be more like zombies (the walking dead) than like me and my kin-folk, so we will just kill those Long Island a-holes and use their corpses as fertilizer for the Spring planting season.
The question isn't where you're going to go... the question is what is your clan affiliation. I wouldn't move to another country where I have no historical ties and no family contacts... that would just make me a plump, stupid, solitary American who can be fleeced.
I'd rather just use the fuel I can gather to move myself, my extended family (including cousins, aunts + uncles), and some trusted (and useful) long-term friends to some rural crap-hole farming town 6 to 8 hours north of New York City.
I would either grab some defensible land, or I would buy it/lease it with some physical gold that I squirreled away. I figure if I grab some New York State land, and the government has melted away, then it's my land so long as I can defend it.
The Winters are going to be cold and long, but a dozen generations back, Native Americans and settlers survived up there with less legacy technology, less education, and less life-long immunizations.
After about 6 months of anarchy, I would expect some Brooklyn and Bronx mofos to make they way up north in search of my preserves, my venison jerky, and my dried fruit. But, by then, they will be hungry and weak, and will be more like zombies (the walking dead) than like me and my kin-folk, so we will just kill those Long Island a-holes and use their corpses as fertilizer for the Spring planting season.
Oh, yeah, and I would love, love, love to use my last gold to move to Hawaii, but I know, sure as hell, that the Native Hawaiians are going to kill all the White people the first chance they get. If they don't kill you with a rock to the head, they will poison your ass, rest assured.
You gotta grab land that people don't want during the flush times, and you gotta grab land that takes real, hard work to cultivate.
Everyone wants a chunk of Hawaii where it never goes below 55-degrees F, and you can just eat mangoes off the trees and scoop out fish from the sea. You're never going to be to hold your land and build up any security. Even if you're the toughest mofo on the planet, the attacking savages are going to wear you down mentally and physically.... it's like owning an oil refinery while the Lord Humongous is constantly trying to take your stuff.
You gotta grab land that people don't want during the flush times, and you gotta grab land that takes real, hard work to cultivate.
Everyone wants a chunk of Hawaii where it never goes below 55-degrees F, and you can just eat mangoes off the trees and scoop out fish from the sea. You're never going to be to hold your land and build up any security. Even if you're the toughest mofo on the planet, the attacking savages are going to wear you down mentally and physically.... it's like owning an oil refinery while the Lord Humongous is constantly trying to take your stuff.
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morganist
What about a yacht. Are you safer in something that can move from port to port and stay out at open sea.
Possibly for a short while, until you run out of diesel fuel and supplies. Longer if it's a sailboat, I guess, but you've got to come to shore some time. And which ports do you bounce between? Oh yeah, and the GPS system may or not be operational (or your electronics die), so you better be able to navigate by the stars and have a great feel for weather conditions so those 10-15 foot swells don't swamp your 35 foot cruiser. It probably won't be on the high priority list of any coastal authorities (Coast Guard or whatever) to roll out and rescue you, so you're probably on your own in that regard.
I'm in.
