Where to find a programmer to automatically backtest a system

fullautotrading said:
Backtesting is pretty useless and even detrimental. One needs a throughout simulation study to have useful insight into the avg behaviour of your approach.
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Backtesting is not useless, there is absolutely no logic behind this. I agree that forward testing/paper trading adds more to the backtest, but to say that backtesting is pretty useless is absolute nonsense.
 
Astrevea said:
Backtesting is not useless, there is absolutely no logic behind this. I agree that forward testing/paper trading adds more to the backtest, but to say that backtesting is pretty useless is absolute nonsense.
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Did not say it is just useless. I actually said that it is detrimental. That is, leading to sure curve fitting and hence delusional. If it were just useless, it would mean not much harm :)
 
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fullautotrading said:
Did not say it is useless. I actually said that it is detrimental. That is, leading to sure curve fitting and hence delusional. If it were just useless, it would mean not much harm :)
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Just drop it mate, seriously. Do you not have better things to do on a Saturday than righting nonsense on a forum and giving people who are reading this really bad advice? I created this thread for a reason and only interested in reading on-topic replies. Not gonna bother reading any more of your posts, don't waste your time.
 
Astrevea said:
It is difficult to say right now, I am willing to pay a reasonable amount, but what a reasonable amount is I cannot say at the moment, I have been busy with other things and haven't yet tried upwork (which I know some people are not kin on). I will create a request there today and see if anyone replies.

Thanks for your advice, I understand it is beneficial, but I have too many other responsibilities in life now to be able to dedicate myself, especially to such a level where I can run a robust backtest and then create a robust trading algo.
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This guy might be able help. adrian@tradingsoft.com
 
Astrevea said:
Hi guys,
I will try to keep this as concise as possible. I have a trading method which is as simple as "if price is moving confidently we take a position and when price is no longer moving confidently we close a position", there is a strict set of rules for "moving confidently". This is not the point of the topic so won't go into much detail.
I backtested it previously in a discretionary way (with slightly less strict rules) and it works.
I need to do an automated backtest of it, which I have already tried using Excel, but I quickly realized I won't be able to implement it efficiently due to lack of knowledge of things other than basic IFs, ANDs and ORs... Furthermore, Excel is very slow, even with what I have managed to implement so far.
I use a candle aggregation method to create more trading opportunities (where we use smaller TF candles to construct a variety of larger TF candles with different opening times, i.e. M1 candles to produce M5 candles opening at 9:00, 9:01, 9:02 etc) and so there is a lot of data as well.
Does anyone know where I can find a decent programmer who has background in trading as well? I have already had bad experience with a website called Fiver, got a full refund that time. I saw some people recommended upwork.com, but others were saying it is pretty rubbish for this kind of things. Any further advice on this?
Many thanks.
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If you will email me (stev.alex@gmail.com), we can set up a meeting and discuss it. I have been trading over 50 years, and programming over 20. I use TradeStation. I have written and back tested over 200 strategies.
 
RedDuke said:
my advice is to partner with someone. Learning basic coding is easy, but it take a long time to become really good like in any profession.
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I have someone now who wants to partner with me (not through ET), but I have some concerns.

For one, I don't really like handing over stuff I spent so much time learning, researching and developing on my own.

Finally, there's also the concern that the programmer gives up along the way OR that he simply decides he's gotten what he needs from me and continues on his own with what I've given him. I'm not really sure if there's any way to protect myself against that, so it's a big risk.

The obvious benefit is that the end result may become considerably better and more efficient than what I have now.

There's also the option of simply hiring someone through UpWork or similar. I've worked with programmers there and even shared my "stuff". I'm more relaxed doing that as these guys usually have no financial literacy and pretty much have no idea what they're looking at and do not understand any of the logic underpinning it. For them, it's just code and math.
 
Laissez Faire said:
I have someone now who wants to partner with me (not through ET), but I have some concerns.

For one, I don't really like handing over stuff I spent so much time learning, researching and developing on my own.

Finally, there's also the concern that the programmer gives up along the way OR that he simply decides he's gotten what he needs from me and continues on his own with what I've given him. I'm not really sure if there's any way to protect myself against that, so it's a big risk.

The obvious benefit is that the end result may become considerably better and more efficient than what I have now.

There's also the option of simply hiring someone through UpWork or similar. I've worked with programmers there and even shared my "stuff". I'm more relaxed doing that as these guys usually have no financial literacy and pretty much have no idea what they're looking at and do not understand any of the logic underpinning it. For them, it's just code and math.
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agree not easy. I was more fortunate in this regards as all my partners are long term friends, we all brought various expertise to the table, I am being IT guy with lots of trading experience.
 
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