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fair enough, but when you say you don;t want to live in a Fascist state without freedoms, remember your stance on the Tax cuts......I get so tired of hearing they are only for the rich....It's pretty funny how many liberals want equality on all levels...but when you mention that a guy who makes 1 million a year pays 370k in taxes and a guy who makes 20,000 a year pays 2,500 in taxes the response is always " well the rich guy can afford it"...but the bottom line is that if you made a flat tax across the board, everyone would pay the same % , but different amounts based on income....but liberals hate the idea of 'equality ' then...
You know what is funny? When Clinton was in office and raised taxes only on the 'wealthiest %".....my wife and i were amazed to find out we were wealthy!!!....when Bush tried to send some $$ our way with a quick tax rebate...i was shocked to find out I was;t that wealthy
hehe...well, honestly, I'm glad you're that wealthy, but let me make some points that you may not be aware of.
First, people who make more money consume more resources, whether it is government resources, environmental resources, etc. -- but that is simply the reality. I'll give a couple of examples to make sure we're talking about the same thing --
1) You're wealthy, so you're buying new cars more frequently than poor people. Because of this, you use roads more than poor people do, and thus you also depend more upon police and local and federal highway departments who maintain and protect those roads. Somebody has to pay for this cost, and since you use the roads more than poor people, it really should be you.
2) You're wealthy, so you buy more new luxury cars. Well, buying more cars is definitely good for business and trade, but the flip side is that over your life time, you will be responsible for more consumption, and more pollution that more vehicles necessarily produce. This HAS to be controlled and cleaned up -- unless you want to live in a world that resembles Mexico City. Thus, you should be paying more in taxes for cleaning up the inevitably larger amount of pollution that you produce. Sorry, but like you said, nothing in life is free.
3) You're wealthy, so you get better health care than do poor people. Well, all of this health care is subsidized to a large degree by the US government. Who do you think gives grants to hospitals, physicians, and scientists to conduct their research to make better treatments for illness?? The US government, in the form of grants to the National Science Foundation, and other government institutions. Well, the guy who makes $20k and can't afford good health insurance is still paying taxes to the pot that the government will use to pay for research into these new treatments. He never gets to see any of the benefits of his tax dollars, because he cannot afford expensive, cutting edge treatments, but wealthy people will. Is THAT fair to the poor guy??? He's paying SOMETHING and getting NOTHING in return. You are paying ALOT, but you're also getting SOMETHING for it.
4) You're wealthy, and maybe you work for a large insurance company who assumes risk to protect the insured from terrorist attacks, and other unforeseen events. The government is here to protect your interests and to allow you to make good money in that business. Shouldn't you be expected to pay a little more than someone who may not benefit as directly as you would from that increased government spending??
5) Not all people choose their careers to make money. If a social worker is making $30k per year, it is obviously not because that person is interested in making a lot of money, otherwise they would've done something else, since being a social worker isn't exactly a walk in the park. But is that social worker any less valuable to society?? Isn't it a VERY useful service that the social worker (or teacher, police officer, etc) performs by helping people such as kids stay away from crime?? Don't YOU benefit by the sacrifices that social worker is making?? Aren't YOU less likely to encounter crime aginst your property or person from the work that social worker is doing??
These are examples that immediately come to mind. And this is why I feel like the big tax-cutters and advocates of a flat tax (aka Republicans) are constantly trying to get something for nothing. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE, OK??? Get it through your head.
And, no, I don't support the death tax or the dividend tax, either.