Where is the recession? Show me ?

Quote from PohPoh:

Right...so by HidioT's logic, that would mean that all stocks do that, all the time, and so you should just be optimistic all the time...if you are short, you are a pessimist...

HAHAHAHA....what a dunce!

Are you calling me that? I was just stating that would have been a great trade. Of course, IF i would have bought it, I probably would have sold when I doubled my money, LOL. One of those fortunes that slipped right through my fingers. :(
 
Quote from nyxtrader:

Are you calling me that? I was just stating that would have been a great trade. Of course, IF i would have bought it, I probably would have sold when I doubled my money, LOL. One of those fortunes that slipped right through my fingers. :(

Haha...no you are not a dunce...HT is the dunce...always has been and always will be...
 
Quote from trendlover:

That is huge appreciation for the time frame and unusual. iF hedgefund2 house did go up that much I would guess he bought in an area that was average in 1988, and then that area or town turned into a hot spot for some reason. Unusual, but it does happen. But no, the average homebuyer will never get that kind of appreciation over the time frame.


Just do some research on real estate prices over 60 years?

Do try to convince yourself real estate is a millstone stone around your neck and stay poor for life.

The average networth of a US homeowner is $184,000 and a renter $4950. The renter is loaded with shiny cars and nice SUVs owned by the bank drowning in debt.

Now is the great time to buy real estate.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

Just do some research on real estate prices over 60 years?

Do try to convince yourself real estate is a millstone stone around your neck and stay poor for life.

The average networth of a US homeowner is $184,000 and a renter $4950. The renter is loaded with shiny cars and nice SUVs owned by the bank drowning in debt.

Now is the great time to buy real estate.

The debate was about your home appreciating from $60.000 purchase price in 1988 to something like $600,000 now in 2008. So you tell me to do research for the last 60 years. We are talking about a 20 year ownership by you, not 60 years. The level of appreciation of your home is unusaul, but not impossible. But very rare for 20 years. Maybe in California hot spot? Only you know that hedgefund2. Did you add on multilayers to your original home purchase over the years and turn it into a bigger asset by putting money into it? Only you know that hedgefund2. But I do agree buying a home is a great investment of money for security of a place to live, and they appreciate over time.
 
Quote from nyxtrader:

How about this one. In october of 2002 RIMM was trading at 2 bucks a share. a 200k investment would have turned into 23mm in 5 years if you would have cashed out at its high.


Ridiculous. Losers talk..
 
Quote from trendlover:

The debate was about your home appreciating from $60.000 purchase price in 1988 to something like $600,000 now in 2008. So you tell me to do research for the last 60 years. We are talking about a 20 year ownership by you, not 60 years. The level of appreciation of your home is unusaul, but not impossible. But very rare for 20 years. Maybe in California hot spot? Only you know that hedgefund2. Did you add on multilayers to your original home purchase over the years and turn it into a bigger asset by putting money into it? Only you know that hedgefund2. But I do agree buying a home is a great investment of money for security of a place to live, and they appreciate over time.


I cannot give you locations. I am very creative with real estate that’s all I can.

Average home prices double in 10 years. When the up cycle comes they double and triple and quadruple in 2 years. The action is fast and furious since pent up demand (since people haven't bought anything) is huge and properties get bidded up to the moon. There is nothing like it seeing you hit jackpots all over.

Can an average person do it? Yes. Its not rocket science. Its very simple.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

Ridiculous. Losers talk..

This is a funny statement for so MANY reasons. If you don't understand there is missed opportunity everyday, then you dont understand the market.

You talk a big game but have poor follow through. I am sure your wife has many stories about the poor follow through you have, LOL.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

I cannot give you locations. I am very creative with real estate that�s all I can.

Average home prices double in 10 years. When the up cycle comes they double and triple and quadruple in 2 years. The action is fast and furious since pent up demand (since people haven't bought anything) is huge and properties get bidded up to the moon. There is nothing like it seeing you hit jackpots all over.

Can an average person do it? Yes. Its not rocket science. Its very simple.

I don't think home prices will be doubling or quadrupling for quite some time. Maybe when the NASDAQ hits 7k. Sounds like you're romanticizing over a past bubble with an antiquated notion of how the housing market works.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

I cannot give you locations. I am very creative with real estate that’s all I can.

Average home prices double in 10 years. When the up cycle comes they double and triple and quadruple in 2 years. The action is fast and furious since pent up demand (since people haven't bought anything) is huge and properties get bidded up to the moon. There is nothing like it seeing you hit jackpots all over.

Can an average person do it? Yes. Its not rocket science. Its very simple.

It sounds like you were in the right place at the right time when you were on the receiving end of realestate boom. It was a sellers market because home prices were apppreciated at ridiculous speed at same time money became cheap and easy to get. You made your deals, collected your commission, and then not responsible for the aftermath which we are seeing now of those big homes in foreclosures due to default. Yes it was jackpot time for sellers. But banks knew exactly waht they were doing when they made money cheap too. They wanted a peice of the pie and they too took the money and passed the ball by creating all those easy money loans...then selling them and getting them off their books. I don't see that kind of jackpot again becasue of the mess it put the economy in. Yes, money to be made in realestate again when demand picks up, but not in such a gluttonous way. Rules have changed. No easy money. No more biting off more than you can chew.
 
Quote from HedgefundTrader2:

Personal attacks? Tsk! Tsk! Using profanities? What do you lack civil upbringing?

Apart from that I will answer this for you.

Bought my first property 1988 for $60,000 ( foreclosure sale)
Value todays real estate market $600,000

Net gain = $540,000

Tell me where you can do that? Gone through 3 real estate cycles the worst one 1992- 1997. The values kept on increasing flawlessly, I didn't have to do much.

Can you do that? Yes you can... its not rocket science. Real estate always goes up when cycle comes it doubles and triples in 2 years the demand is hard and furious red hot...you have to beat the buyers away with a long stick.

And what about once you factor in other things like property taxes, any interest payments, and maintenance expenses assoicated iwth the asset?

Then your net gain is more like 350 i'd wager, which is ~9% gain a year. Not a bad gain by any stretch,but more than doable elsewheres.
 
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