Where is futurecurrents?

[noddyboy]

Sigh...ALL the NOAA/NASA scientists are wrong when it comes to predicting the solar cycle...this is something that swings back and forth every decade.

http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/solar-cycle-24-nasa-prediction-90-140.jpg

 

[futurecurrents]

So costly that it should make sense to ALL of us that we should spend $500 to put more thermometers to measure the temperature. Instead, 600 weather stations are closed, and strangely, they are in areas that would have shown cooler weather.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/08/13/weather-station-closures-flaws-in-temperature-record/

Can we AGREE on this? Because it is quite basic science to measure with the same instrument when plotting a graph...

Fox news science? lol

Oxymoron. Accent on the moron...

 

[noddyboy]

So what? They are Faux News watching moron right wing nut jobs.

BTW, I believe in climate change -- quite different from global warming. But the 97% statistic is probably climate change at best, and definitely not global warming.

 

[noddyboy]

Fox news science? lol

Oxymoron. Accent on the moron...

I am not saying fox news is science -- I am saying that weather stations are being closed. That is a fact.

 

[futurecurrents]

Sigh...ALL the NOAA/NASA scientists are wrong when it comes to predicting the solar cycle...this is something that swings back and forth every decade.

http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/solar-cycle-24-nasa-prediction-90-140.jpg

Looks like they are right to me. Please try to make sense.

 

[futurecurrents]

I am not saying fox news is science -- I am saying that weather stations are being closed. That is a fact.

So?

 

[noddyboy]

Because weather stations are being closed, I consider the graphs which are then adjusted to be unreliable.

Therefore, the best graph is probably to use a consistent instrument. NOAA's own satellites here show no global warming since 1998.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

 

[noddyboy]

Anyway back to trading...
I do care about pollution and all...I do believe in climate change.
But somehow anyone who wants to question global warming must be a sinner.

 

[OddTrader]

Are the figures/facts in the below page Real? Just wondering!!! Very very Alarming!

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warmin...nfographic-sea-level-rise-global-warming.html

 

[nitro]

why? how do we know we want to cool down. we have billions more people to feed. Don't fall for the scare tactics.

The reality of this situation is... man made co2 might contribute a tiny fraction to warming and mans activities might change the albedo of the earth a bit also.

However, since the agw nutter models failed we know co2 is not nearly as powerful as the small minority of agw nutters and the media have been screaming their heads off about.

Additionally, being we have people to feed we would rather be a bit warmer than cooler...
and finally we really do not know if anything man does will overwhelm the earths natural feedback mechanism.

Rather safe than sorry... should be the strongest argument... because that is all the science we have... as you have no doubt learned not finding any peer reviewed science showing man made co2 causes warming.

And if that were the argument, I would agree.

I agree that we don't completely know that warming the earth is a horrible thing although my own opinion is that it is at best a very dangerous experiment. That there is warming and that it is at least human forced is also not debatable to me, but I agree that it is counter-intuitive and not obvious when all the physics is taken into account.

On the other hand, the acid increase of the oceans is __ABSOLUTELY__ DEFCON 1 to our way of life. The chemistry is irrefutable, and the length of time we can study it accurately is 300 million years+. I urge you all to see tonight:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/lethal-seas.html

In fact, someone should open a thread on it and discuss ONLY the acidification of the seas.