zionism propaganda and lies. zionists stole the lands of pals, and committed war crimes. Pals will win, because truth always prevails.
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Where Is Egypt Politics Headed?
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zionism propaganda and lies. zionists stole the lands of pals, and committed war crimes. Pals will win, because truth always prevails.
Quote from sameeh55:
I'm not trying to emabarass you. Just get to the facts. You know all arabs refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and until at least palestinians do why should Israel recognize a state for them?Quote from pspr:
The U.N.! Are you serious? The U.N. has Iran compaining about U.S. human rights abuses. What a joke the U.N. is.
Wait a minute, wasn't the UN that created the State of Israel? Wasn't the UN that gave the US the green light to invade and destroy Iraq? When the UN fits the zionist agenda, it is A ok, but when the issue of UN resolutions surfaces, it becomes a "Joke"
Just do an internet search and you'll see that what I am reporting is true. Have you been locked in a closet or something for the last 50 years?
I don't! I know what I am talking about! I know that the PLO recognized the state of Israel in 1984, I know the PA recognizes the state of Israel. Why doesn't Israel recognize the Palestinian state over the West Bank And Gaza, which constitute 22% of what was Historical Palestine?
Again, Why not embarrass me and prove to everyone that I am wrong by showing us some evidence to the contrary.
And why do arabs and palestinians continue to attack Israel with missles and rockets unprovoked? And why does no one in the arab world denouce Iran for calling for the destruction of Israel? Why?
This story was in the NY Times. Do you believe them?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/world/middleeast/28mideast.html
Not trying to embarrass you, but stating that all Arabs refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, is patently false.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel
Quote from pspr:
I'm not trying to emabarass you. Just get to the facts. You know all arabs refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and until at least palestinians do why should Israel recognize a state for them?
And why do arabs and palestinians continue to attack Israel with missles and rockets unprovoked? And why does no one in the arab world denouce Iran for calling for the destruction of Israel? Why?
This story was in the NY Times. Do you believe them?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/world/middleeast/28mideast.html
Quote from pspr:
I'm not trying to emabarass you. Just get to the facts. You know all arabs refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and until at least palestinians do why should Israel recognize a state for them?
And why do arabs and palestinians continue to attack Israel with missles and rockets unprovoked? And why does no one in the arab world denouce Iran for calling for the destruction of Israel? Why?
This story was in the NY Times. Do you believe them?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/world/middleeast/28mideast.html
So you insist on lying! I did not know you swam that way!
Beirut Declaration REAFFIRMING the resolution taken in June 1996 at the Cairo extraordinary Arab summit that a just and comprehensive peace in the Middle East is the strategic option of the Arab countries, to be achieved in accordance with international legality, and which would require a comparable commitment on the part of the Israeli government.
HAVING LISTENED to the statement made by His Royal Highness Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, the crown prince of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in which his highness presented his initiative, calling for full Israeli withdrawal from all the Arab territories occupied since June 1967, in implementation of Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338, reaffirmed by the Madrid Conference of 1991 and the land-for-peace principle, and Israel's acceptance of an independent Palestinian state, with East Jerusalem as its capital, in return for the establishment of normal relations in the context of a comprehensive peace with Israel.
EMANATING FROM the conviction of the Arab countries that a military solution to the conflict will not achieve peace or provide security for the parties, the council:
1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well.
2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm:
a. Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights to the lines of June 4, 1967, as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon.
b. Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194.
c. The acceptance of the establishment of a sovereign, independent Palestinian state on the Palestinian territories occupied since the 4th of June, 1967, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
3. Consequently, the Arab countries affirm the following:
a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.
b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.
4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.
5. Calls upon the government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighborliness and provide future generations with security, stability and prosperity.
6. Invites the international community and all countries and organizations to support this initiative.
7. Requests the chairman of the summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the secretary general of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim states and the European Union.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/arabisraeliconflict/qt/beirut-declaration-text.htm
As for recognizing Israel a a "Jewish" State, never since WWII did an entity have the audacity to insist on such fascist demand which, in essence, is calling for expelling its Palestinian inhabitants within its border (Jewish means no citizens from other religions). The same proposal was made by the Serbs, based on ethnicity, and was rejected and the Serbs paid for it. Also, this approach was tried before and guess what happened? You guessed it! WWII
Rather than coming out lying about Egypt in an attempt to scare people of the possible democratic change in there, why not have the intellectual honesty to come out and declare that what concerns you the most about the Egyptian people right to enjoy democracy is that is goes counter to the zionist expansionist project. So you have been posting thread after thread intended to raise the level of concern was only intended to push a zionist agenda?
Yeah, right.. an unacceptable and non-negotiable "take it or leave it" arab ultimatum which takes neither Israel's security concerns nor Israel's position on the refugee situation, nor Jerusalem, nor holy sites, nor a million other details into account, besides, the main anti-Israel organizations like Hamas, Hezbollah and many others are not aboard with the declaration so the attacks on Israel would still continue. Cheap arab PR stunt what was not taken seriously by any government in the world and was pretty much ignored by the entire international community.Quote from sameeh55:
So you insist on lying! I did not know you swam that way!
Beirut Declaration REAFFIRMING the resolution taken in June 1996 at the Cairo extraordinary Arab summit that a just and comprehensive peace in the Middle East is the strategic option of the Arab countries, to be achieved in accordance with international legality, and which would require a comparable commitment on the part of the Israeli government.
HAVING LISTENED to the statement made by His Royal Highness Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz, the crown prince of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in which his highness presented his initiative, calling for full Israeli withdrawal from all the Arab territories occupied since June 1967, in implementation of Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338, reaffirmed by the Madrid Conference of 1991 and the land-for-peace principle, and Israel's acceptance of an independent Palestinian state, with East Jerusalem as its capital, in return for the establishment of normal relations in the context of a comprehensive peace with Israel.
EMANATING FROM the conviction of the Arab countries that a military solution to the conflict will not achieve peace or provide security for the parties, the council:
1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well.
2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm:
a. Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights to the lines of June 4, 1967, as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon.
b. Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194.
c. The acceptance of the establishment of a sovereign, independent Palestinian state on the Palestinian territories occupied since the 4th of June, 1967, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital.
3. Consequently, the Arab countries affirm the following:
a. Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region.
b. Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace.
4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries.
5. Calls upon the government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighborliness and provide future generations with security, stability and prosperity.
6. Invites the international community and all countries and organizations to support this initiative.
7. Requests the chairman of the summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the secretary general of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim states and the European Union.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/arabisraeliconflict/qt/beirut-declaration-text.htm
As for recognizing Israel a a "Jewish" State, never since WWII did an entity have the audacity to insist on such fascist demand which, in essence, is calling for expelling its Palestinian inhabitants within its border (Jewish means no citizens from other religions). The same proposal was made by the Serbs, based on ethnicity, and was rejected and the Serbs paid for it. Also, this approach was tried before and guess what happened? You guessed it! WWII
Rather than coming out lying about Egypt in an attempt to scare people of the possible democratic change in there, why not have the intellectual honesty to come out and declare that what concerns you the most about the Egyptian people right to enjoy democracy is that is goes counter to the zionist expansionist project. So you have been posting thread after thread intended to raise the level of concern was only intended to push a zionist agenda?
Who do you think you are kidding clown?
Quote from a_person:
Yeah, right.. an unacceptable and non-negotiable "take it or leave it" arab ultimatum which takes neither Israel's security concerns nor Israel's position on the refugee situation, nor Jerusalem, nor holy sites, nor a million other details into account, besides, the main anti-Israel organizations like Hamas, Hezbollah and many others are not aboard with the declaration so the attacks on Israel would still continue. Cheap arab PR stunt what was not taken seriously by any government in the world and was pretty much ignored by the entire international community.
Who do you think you are kidding clown?
If we are going to leave it for you, there won't be single Arab state. The bottom line is that the Zionist entity decided in its own fascist wisdom to reject peace and carry on with its land theft. If that is the case, spare us the crocodile tears and admit that it is the zionist entity that is rejecting peace in favour of expelling the Palestinians from their own land.
Furthermore, in israel's wisdom, they thought of their bet on dictatorship regime as more beneficial than making peace with the people of the Middle East. Smart move cross eyed monkey. You rejected a peace proposal that could've guaranteed you a permanent peace and instead chose war crimes, occupation and ethnic cleansing. Bravo!
Nope clown, there was no peace proposal to reject. The non-negotiable ultimatum leading to indefensible borders (non-starter), the right of return (i.e flooding Israel with 5 million arab refuges and turning it into a de-facto 24th arab state, another non-starter) and continued terror attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah was so pathetically absurd that everyone with half a brain (that excludes you) just laughed at it.Quote from sameeh55:
The bottom line is that the Zionist entity decided in its own fascist wisdom to reject peace
Quote from a_person:
Nope clown, there was no peace proposal to reject. The non-negotiable ultimatum leading to indefensible borders (non-starter), the right of return (i.e flooding Israel with 5 million arab refuges and turning it into a de-facto 24th arab state, another non-starter) and continued terror attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah was so pathetically absurd that everyone with half a brain (that excludes you) just laughed at it.
So you are admitting to the zionist entity's rejection of the peace proposal made by all of the Arab state which means Permanent peace!
Also, which indefensible border are you talking about if I may ask oh zionist piece of shit? And if that defensible border encompasses parts of the West Bank, why would the zionist entity go through such an effort of claiming that they want peace based on two states solution whereby the Palestinian state would be over the West Bank and Gaza Strip? You are a joke Monkey!
On one side of the zionists mouth, they try to fool the world that they want peace based on two states solutions and on the other, they reject an Arab peace proposal that proposes;
1- Two states solution;
2- Full normalization with the Arab and Islamic world; and
3- Permanent peace
I suggest you go back to your people and ask them to give you better joke than this one. The whole world, hence UN resolutions, finally reached a conclusion that we've reached long long time ago. The zionist entity is an expansionist fascist state that cannot strive in a peaceful environment