The insurgency just does not want democracy. They got thrown out of power by an invading force and they are going into democracy only with kicking and screaming and murderous assaults on the invader. I would possibly call them spoiled little brats I suppose, if I needed a new word for them. Liberals in the US are doing the same thing since they started to lose power in 1992 elections. They started the partisan fighting thing by not allowind Newt Gingritch to publish a book and make some $. Pure brats without a good plan to lead the country, same as the Sunnis that are deposed in Iraq.
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Where does the word "insurgent" come from?
- Thread starter oddiduro
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Quote from Sam123:
Everyone knows who the insurgents are: they are mostly Sunnis. They are losing the fight and are now resorting to the desperate measures of making âmartyrsâ out of their own families. Saddamâs regime favored the Sunnis. Global Islamofacism is Sunni. Therefore, in order to include both the Islamists and the Sunni nationalist troublemakers, and account for their relative smallness in size, you call them âinsurgents.â
Not true. The last estimate I saw was that somewhere between 1 - 5% of the insurgents are the foreign jihadis aka terrorists aka evildoers aka the enemy. The remainder (95% +) are brave patriots fighting to evict the foreign occupation. It's very important to resist an occupation -- the citizens of a certain european country have been labelled "cheese eating surrender monkeys" for years because they chose not to resist. Who knows how different the history books might look today if...
Were the Indians "INSURGENTS"?
Are the Iraq people "INSURGENTS"?
Is the American Gov up to the same tricks again? Is the USA Gov's use of the word more of a sound bite rather than an accurate use of the word? I mean, what sounds better, calling FREEDOM FIGHTERS "INSURGENTS" or simply saying: "The fucking Iraq ingrates want the invaders to give back the country they have stolen"
Are the Iraq people "INSURGENTS"?
Is the American Gov up to the same tricks again? Is the USA Gov's use of the word more of a sound bite rather than an accurate use of the word? I mean, what sounds better, calling FREEDOM FIGHTERS "INSURGENTS" or simply saying: "The fucking Iraq ingrates want the invaders to give back the country they have stolen"
I guess some people forget that Saudi Arabia does well in training terrorists/insurgents too.
Noone remembers Saudi Medical Student Was Mess Tent Suicide Bomber in Iraq - educated hard-line Saudi society causing terrorisms against Americans back in 2003?
Noone remembers Saudi Medical Student Was Mess Tent Suicide Bomber in Iraq - educated hard-line Saudi society causing terrorisms against Americans back in 2003?
Quote from hoodooman:
With a career that spanned nearly thirty years working for DOD and peripheral organizations, it was clear to me that we could have sent Iraq a clear message by bombing their palaces and government buildings to rubble without ever putting any boots on the ground. After all, it worked with Kadafi when we bombed his digs. It obviously scared the living hell out of him and now he wants to be our buddy.
Consequently, this Iraq war was entirely unnecessary and the majority of politicians either were too stupid to realize it, or they had other vested interests in starting it. I don't know which but all who voted for it should be replaced.
Furthermore, you can't expect much better from a professional volunteer military. As soon as they join, they agree to be morally corrupted. They will kill whoever they are told to attack for a pitiful salary or college tuition, a pension or whatever. The military is their best financial option and they go in for that reason. With a minority of exceptions, they are the lowest of the low. I worked with them every day and saw very few exceptions.
We're there to establish American bases. That requires "boots on the ground".
Quote from maxpi:
The insurgency just does not want democracy. They got thrown out of power by an invading force and they are going into democracy only with kicking and screaming and murderous assaults on the invader. I would possibly call them spoiled little brats I suppose, if I needed a new word for them. Liberals in the US are doing the same thing since they started to lose power in 1992 elections. They started the partisan fighting thing by not allowind Newt Gingritch to publish a book and make some $. Pure brats without a good plan to lead the country, same as the Sunnis that are deposed in Iraq.
Did they ASK for democracy? If they had ASKED for democracy, then kicking and screaming would not be needed, would it?
Maybe we should try this on General(not elected) Musharref of Pakistan. Let's see if he kicks and screams too.
Quote from Covertibility:
I guess some people forget that Saudi Arabia does well in training terrorists/insurgents too.
Noone remembers Saudi Medical Student Was Mess Tent Suicide Bomber in Iraq - educated hard-line Saudi society causing terrorisms against Americans back in 2003?
Well, considering this, and considering the fact that the highjackers were Saudi's too, and we know where the Bin L*den clan is from, THEN WHY DID WE NOT ATTACK SAUDI ARABIA????
These "insurgents" from Iraq are doing exactly what you would do if thugs with guns showed up on your block, fighting where they can with what they can.
Quote from originalskunk:
Not true. The last estimate I saw was that somewhere between 1 - 5% of the insurgents are the foreign jihadis aka terrorists aka evildoers aka the enemy. The remainder (95% +) are brave patriots fighting to evict the foreign occupation. It's very important to resist an occupation -- the citizens of a certain european country have been labelled "cheese eating surrender monkeys" for years because they chose not to resist. Who knows how different the history books might look today if...
.....the French had decided to give Hitler a run for his money?
I have a feeling it's because the Bin Laden family is not the government of Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda wants to overthrow the Saudi Arabian government.Quote from oddiduro:
Well, considering this, and considering the fact that the highjackers were Saudi's too, and we know where the Bin L*den clan is from, THEN WHY DID WE NOT ATTACK SAUDI ARABIA????
If the 9/11 hijackers were Canadian, would you advocate invading Canada?
Quote from hapaboy:
I have a feeling it's because the Bin Laden family is not the government of Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda wants to overthrow the Saudi Arabian government.
If the 9/11 hijackers were Canadian, would you advocate invading Canada?
Wasn't this the original logic of the Bush administration. They had WMD's? They were harboring terrorists? It was also the impetus for invading Afghanistan. Bin Laden was there, we were told. So, if follows that if the highjackers were Saudi's then where should we have gone?